In 1963, Jim Whittaker stood on top of the highest mountain in the world, becoming the first American to summit Everest. Since then, he has brought the company REI to international prominence, and seen climbing change dramatically—including having his son Leif Whittaker call him from the top of Everest, a possibility Whittaker had never dreamed of. In this episode, Whittaker reminisces about wearing wet leather boots for 3 weeks on his expedition to Everest (and still keeping his toes), reflects on how ice axes could splinter in your hands back in the day, and how really, the best climbing tools are your own hands, feet, and brain. Dive into this episode to hear this climbing legend's insights into the way climbing history informs our present.