On this week's podcast:

AUKUS - the joint project by the US, the UK and Australia, to provide nuclear powered submarines to the Australian navy.

Undersea security is increasingly important, think Nordstream.

Alessio Patalano, Professor of War and Strategy in East Asia, Kings College, London, guests with personal insight, and we begin with what’s in it for New Zealand.

And, of course, The Mailroom with Mrs Producer.

File your comments and complaints at [email protected]

Haven't listened to a podcast before? Check out our simple how-to guide.

Listen here on iHeartRadio

Leighton Smith's podcast also available on iTunes:
To subscribe via iTunes click here

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.