On October 5, 2022, in podcast 175 we spoke with two insightful guests.

Both were then and are now relevant to the state of play locally and internationally.

Dr Eric Crampton, Chief Economist at the New Zealand Initiative addressed the paucity of productivity in NZ.

Associate Professor Salvatore Babones from the University of Sydney resonates on Alexander Dugan, otherwise nominated as Putin’s Brain.

Thought provoking and stimulating conversation in the best of Leighton Smith.

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