I am beyond excited to share this bonus episode with you, because not only do I get to chat with my friend and fellow Anti-MLM warrior, but we're talking about my current obsession, Ponzinomics : The Untold Story of Multi-Level Marketing. And who better to discuss this with, other than Savy Leiser, our gay aunt from the 80's, Small Business Babe and creator of Savy Writes Books on YouTube! After finishing Robert's book, I knew there was only one person (besides him) that could do this review justice and I am so thankful she agreed! I can't wait to have her back!

Show Notes

Meet Savy! http://www.savyleiser.com/

Savy Writes Books : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9WShNx2HsXRGjj9F593HzA

Furever Home Friends : https://fureverhomefriends.com/

VOTE for Savy and FHF! : https://smallbusinessgrant.fedex.com/entry/W2vFJVklVT

Savy's Ponzinomics Review with The Anti Bot

Part 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTsFCxP3aNc 

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAhFCAgkTCo

Uncle Rico sells NuPont Fiber Woven Bowls : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsKRlVwXThU

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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After wanting to take responsibility for her finances, and become financially literate, Cat Dean realized her MLM was hemorrhaging her cash flow. Armed with this new knowledge, she decided to learn how to manage debt, become "financially free" without the cult of MLM, and help others leaving these businesses with their long term money goals as well. Stay tuned for Part 2!

Show Notes:

Follow Cat on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/debtfreewithcattitude/

Follow Cat on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@lifewithcattitude

Book Cat's Services - https://go.oncehub.com/CatherineDean

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

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In our very first bonus episode, we talk with Haley O'Bryan, a therapist with a masters in counseling, a wide range of interest in social justic topics, and who did her masters theis on "Counseling Considerations for Clients with Experience in Multi-Level Marketing Companies and Similar Groups". Haley offers valuable insight into the harmful culture of MLM, the issues that come along with joining them and the importance of finding supportive treatment when leaving these cults.

Show Notes!

Follow Haley on Instagram! - https://www.instagram.com/counselorhaley/

Haley's Masters Thesis; "Counseling Considerations for Clients with Experience in Multi-Level Marketing Companies and Similar Groups" - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XT93C53xxhwJLQelMezcVfa-7bPjSMLU/view

Josie Naikoi "Not The Good Girl" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shw

Psychology Today - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us

Free Therapy Resources - https://www.purewow.com/wellness/free-therapy-resources

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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In our 4th episode of Life After MLM, we finish Katie's story about her time in LuLaRoe. She walks us though her refund process, the 100% buyback drama, the deep feelings of guilt she experienced when leaving MLM and the resulting mental health journey she had to take to find herself again. In Katie's speaking out, she finds the cathartic release and the resulting validation when people begin to respond to her shared experience.

Show Notes:

Check out our Instagram feed @lifeaftermlmpodcast for Katie's Show Notes post to see all the pictures and things we talk about!

Mark Stidham, owner of LuLaRoe addressing upset consultants, telling them the "suck it up" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZp8dEYLko0

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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In the 3rd episode of Life After MLM, I talk to Katie Kastner, a special educator and freelance writer from the Midwest. Katie was in LuLaRoe at the same time I was, experienced eerily similar things, but saw "the rot" way before I could. Katie decided to leave LuLaRoe and speak out in print media, writing a scathing personal expose about her time in the cult.

My conversation with Katie ran the gamete from relatable moldy leggings experiences, to her difficult mental health journey processing how MLM affected her and the aftermath of LuLaRoe and the Anti-MLM movement.

This is part one.

Show Notes

Check out Katie's life after MLM here : https://www.katiekastner.com/

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

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In our second episode, I chat with Jessica Underwood-James, a professional aesthetician and makeup artist from the Mississippi Gulf Coast. After being in 3 different MLM's, she realized that this industry was much darker than it appeared from the outside. Now an Anti-MLM Advocate, Jess helps educate people on the dangers associated with Multi-Level Marketing.

Don't forget to listen to her new Anti_MLM podcast at https://anchor.fm/jessmua

Follow her on her social media channels at linktr.ee/JessMUA

Check out all the photos we mention on our SHOW NOTES post on our IG @lifeaftermlmpodcast

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

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In our very first episode of Life After MLM, I share my own story in Multi Level Marketing, the rise and fall of LuLaRoe from an inside perspective, and what's next for the Anti-MLM Movement.

Show Notes

Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS

How can you help?

Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org 

You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/

Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide

Support the Podcast!

Buy me a Taco and leave me a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins

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Like us on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast

Follow me on TikTok for Anti MLM humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa

Find me on CLUBHOUSE at @therealrobertablevins

Become a monthly supporter for as little as $.99! https://anchor.fm/roberta-blevins/support

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