Ruth, one of our guests from Season 1, comes back to update us on her life and share her cringey MLM journal entries. As Ruth reads her inner most thoughts as a Hun deep in Pure Romance, we comment and reflect on what she was saying and what she really meant in those last years leading up to finally leaving. From deeply empathic thoughts and actions to saying the quiet parts out loud, Ruth's journey out of MLM gives us an inside look into the mind of a Hun and reminds us what it looks like to start your life after MLM.

Show Notes

Pure Romance Ditches MLM

Pure Romance Switches to Omni Channel

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

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I am out of town, so here is a spooky Halloween bonus episode with some of the most heartbreaking MLM Horror Stories I found on Reddit, featuring some of our favorite MLMs to hate, Amway, Primerica, Mary Kay and LuLaRoe. If you'd like to dive deeper into these posts and read comments or updates, the source link is provided below, and let me know if you'd like more sourced stories as bonus episodes going forward! There are so many, and they all deserve a platform to be heard on.

Show Notes

r/antiMLM : MLM Horror Stories

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

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Sophia joined Amway as a vulnerable teenager who was just looking for adult mentorship and stability in her life. Through a series of tragic events, Sophia realized that life was far too short to be stuck in something so controlling and toxic, and despite the extreme guilt she felt to her upline, came to find out that she had one foot out the door already. But what happens when you know you have to leave, but you're not sure if you can function in life without your upline?

Show Notes

2024 DV Stats (NC, USA)

Stand Up, Speak Out NC

/r AntiMLM WWDB Horror Story

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

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Happy October!!! Friend of the pod, Elora Dodd found the book How to Make Big Money in Multi-Level Marketing at the thrift store and sent it to me to use in AntiMLM content. For the month of October it will serve as our own culty version of Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark and give us fodder for bonus episodes and extra content for True Crime month! Today I am reading some selected passages from "very successful" MLMers, as they tell us why they joined their MLM, as well as a dramatic reading of an MLM version of "The Oyster Parable".

Show Notes

How to Make Big Money in Multi-Level Marketing

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

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Eva Collins learned the hard way that the coaching and course industry is a less than scrupulous playground full of grifters and decided she needed to do something about it. In our conversation we cover the similarities of our own experiences in schemes, share the red flags to look out for when deciding to hire outside help and wax poetic on why the trolls are so triggered.

Show Notes

Connect with Eva: Instagram | Website

Tupperware Files Chapter 11

r/antimlm Is Master Resell Rights an MLM?

MMR Scam

FTC: When a Coaching Program is a Scam

International Coaching Federation

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

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Robyn has had ADHD her whole life, and she's been chasing that "Dopamine Dragon" for as long as she can remember. In the various ways she's learned to control it over the years, it wasn't without the familiar game of MLMs, jumping from company to company, hoping to hit it big. Through joining the old standards, new fads and even a ground floor opportunity, Robyn learned the hard way that the house always wins. In our chat we talk about the effects of MLM with ADHD, toxic diet culture and fast fashion.

Show Notes

The MLM Influence on Diet CULTure

What is Fast Fashion? And Why is it a Problem?

Unraveling the Impact of Thrifting

A Sustainable Guide to Thrifting

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

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*Content Warning* In this episode we talk about heavy topics including Domestic Violence, Narcissistic Abuse, Ableism and Medical Trauma. Please use discretion when listening.

Katie was a young woman looking to take hold of her independence and make it on her own when she first met Christian on a dating app. His prolonged abuse helped lay the foundation for a lot of the relationships Katie found herself in and the medical issues still plaguing her to this day. When a freak accident left Katie with a debilitating TBI, she found herself deep in the clutches of Pruvit, further worsening her medical issues and forcing her to take a hard look at where she was headed.

Show Notes

Connect with Katie : Instagram | Threads | LinkedIn

Living with a TBI

Advocating for Yourself with an Invisible Disability

Brain Injury Alliance Iowa

Brain Injury Association of America

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

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In Part 2 of our story, Sarah and I discuss how the cult evolved after the bombs were successfully prayed away and the bunkers were abandoned in the early 90's. As the toxic diet culture craze came into fashion and being crunchy was the newest fad, Church United and Triumphant clung to their remaining members and adopted a macrobiotic diet. We talk about their obsession with the healing powers of Tea Tree Oil, how the MLM Melaleuca scammed their way in the door, the panic of Y2K, and the Siege at Waco, and how it actually helped CUT keep its tax exempt status.

Show Notes

Montana Compound Zillow Listing

Join the Survivor Group

Prophet's Daughter by Erin Prophet

Church Universal & Triumphant's Website

Church Universal and Triumphant

Y2K Panic

Waco Seige

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

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Back in the 1980's Sarah was born into a Doomsday Cult who worshiped the "ascended Masters" built underground bunkers in the Montana wilderness to survive the nuclear holocaust of The Cold War. But that's not all... Their exalted leader who was affectionately known as "Mother", also had a hand in helping create the cult, Twin Flame University. In part 1 of our episode, we chat about the fear around the Cold War, the history of Church United and Triumphant, Twin Flames and a few other culty connections.

Show Notes

Montana Compound Zillow Listing

Join the Survivor Group

Prophet's Daughter by Erin Prophet

Church Universal & Triumphant's Website

"I Am" Movement

Church Universal and Triumphant

The Royal Teton Ranch (photos)

The Lost Teachings of Jesus by Elizabeth Clare Prophet

Soulmates & Twin Flames by Elizabeth Clare Prophet

Glastonbury Abbey

Lemurian Fellowship

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

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Support the Podcast!

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Dana had no idea the day my face came across her FYP, that in 2 years time her life would be totally different. It started off innocently enough, as an email asking questions, followed by light conversation back and forth, until the last email I received that started with "I just wanted to reach out and say - I QUIT!". But Dana's journey out of MLM was littered with the adjacent scams that occupy the spaces between; Coaching, Courses, Affiliate Marketing, and Facebook Raffle pages that look more like illegal gambling rackets than actual business support.

Show Notes

How to Tell if a Course is Legit

Facebook Raffle Guide

Find Your Local Gaming Control Board

Out of MLM

The BITE Model

LAMLM Book Club

MLM Dupes

How can you help?

MLM Change

Report Fraud

Truth in Advertising

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