Our very first guest, Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky, joins Howard for a conversation about her book The Cabinet: George Washington and the Creation of an American Institution and about the personalities and relationships of Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, and Hamilton. And of course we talk a bit about our mutual love for John Quincy Adams.

Jess and Howard kick off the episode with a look at the most famous story of George Washington's profanity.

Note: Our interview with Chervinsky was recorded in June 2021 and does not take into account any events that have transpired since.

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