This week is a the crossover episode you didn't know you needed. We are joined by Kris and Shana of the Bad Queer Podcast where we talk the origin story of our show, the love + lessons in their friendship, the success of their show, Jonathan’s book Black. Fat. Femme: Revealing the Power of Visibly Queer Voices in Media and Learning to Love Yourself, a surprise Loretta Devine stud reveal, their Bad Queer Opinions, and the nastiness online they brush off.

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