Matthew Caws is a singer and songwriter who leads the best band in the world, Nada Surf. He joins Jeff this week to talk about love, songs, and writing love songs. Jeff gets to ask him a million questions about his process, point of view, inspirations, how he feels about his earlier music, what it feels like to put yourself into your songs, and whether or not every lyric has to mean something. It’s the best episode.

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