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Ep 247 Paul Jones Career Deep Dive 

Paul Jones started his career in Steve Nelson’s United Shoot Wrestling Federation. 
Heath Herring, Evan Tanner and Ali Elias are a few of the names that he worked out with on his way to fighting in the UFC. 

Paul’s career has some of the most stringent MMA experts debating exactly how good he was.; an alternate Olympic wrestler and a world champion Sambo player it comes with no surprise that he has dominant wins over Erik Paulson, Heath Herring and  Sanae Kikuta. 

Paul Jones life, career and mindset are all on display with this interview. 

Ep 247 Paul Jones Career Deep Dive 

0:00 Lytes out intro

0:19 guest introduction

0:32 interview start 

0:34 overall fight record 

1:01 fighting Heath Herring in tournament finals

4:47 Early beginnings in MMA 

6:42 Boys Ranch Texas high school

11:45 Paul Jones vs Steve Faulkner “canceled bout” 

14:55 Dealings with John Perretti 

16:12 transitioning to full time fighter 

17:38 Paul Jones vs Jeff Zastro 

20:14 Paul Jones vs Erik Paulson

22:25 getting invited to compete on TUF 4

24:17 expectations going into Erik Paulson fight 

26:58 experience with Evan Tanner 

28:32 leg lock defense during Erik Paulson fight 

30:04 training with Ali Elias

31:56 avoiding injuries during fight career 

32:41 Paul Jones vs Erik Paulson in Japan 

34:23 Paul Jones vs Juan Mott 

35:49 USWF outdrawing the UFC 

37:58 going on the Jerry Springer show 

39:15 Paul Jones vs Sanae Kikuta

42:22 Phyllis Lee 

42:44 Paul Jones vs Larry Parker

43:09 Paul Jones vs Flavio Luiz Moura

46:21 Paul Jones vs Chuck Lidell

50:26 being accepted as a fighter by friends and family 

52:07 career highlights 

53:53 favorite career moment 

55:29 finishing off fight career 

57:51 regrets during fight career 

1:00:14 current life 

1:02:32 first and last time drinking Alcohol

1:07:15 Igor Zinoviev 

1:08:19 scouting talent at the boys ranch 

1:10:28 Coach Craig Kimberland arrested for murder 

1:12:13 Andy Anderson 

1:12:49 interview wrap up 

1:13:05 outro/ final thoughts 

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Ep 246 Joe Pardo Gracie Academy Torrance

Joe Pardo started at the Gracie Academy Torrance 1 week after UFC 1 aired. Joe Pardo was featured on the Gracie in Action tapes taking on all challengers those that doubted the Gracie system.  

Joe takes us through his fight career and all of the political back room dealings that have never been addressed 

Ep 246 Joe Pardo Gracie Academy Torrance

0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction
0:44 interview start 
1:00 first day at the Gracie academy 
3:32 LAPD no choking policy 
5:30 taking part in the Gracie challenge 
7:01 thoughts on Jason Delucia
8:35 interactions with Rickson Gracie 
9:12 why Rickson Gracie wasent picked for UFC 1
11:57 interactions with Helio Gracie 
14:04 Lowell Anderson and Craig Kukuk leaving the Gracie academy 
16:15 opinion on Richard Bressler
17:24 instructor program at the Gracie academy 
20:40 time spent at Gracie academy 
21:16 experience with Rorion Gracie 
22:21 interactions with Erik Paulson 
25:10 Oleg Taktarov blocked from the UFC by Rorion Gracie 
28:13 Joe Pardo vs Obake
30:02 training with Rico Chiapparelli 
30:49 Tom Erickson vs Murilo Bustamante 
31:43 Rico Chiapparelli kicked out of Gracie academy 
32:57 Chris Brennan in the instructor program 
34:01 Joe Pardo vs Brad Kohler
36:51 training leg locks with Royce Gracie 
39:00 purposely teaching back techniques 
42:01 Royce Gracie’s fighting record 
43:28 Training Royce Gracie for UFC 2
44:13 Randy Ziegler doing private lessons with Rickson Gracie 
46:11 Beverly Hill Jiu Jitsu 
47:09 training with Marc Laimon 
47:44 Marc Laimon vs Ryron Gracie 
48:37 Royce Gracie flying to Europe to avenge loss 
50:30 getting picked to fight during the Gracie challenge 
52:07 Joe Pardo vs Mike Van Arsdale
57:21 Joe Pardo vs John Lober
1:02:41 fighting at Kajas cage combat 
1:04:32 relationship with Kajas 
1:06:17 outlaws in the Huntington Beach fight scene 
1:11:09 experience with Henry Akins
1:11:51 Joe Pardo vs Vladimir Matyunshenko
1:12:49 Kajas claim of creating the octagon cage 
1:15:25 tapout logo borrowed from Kajas 
1:16:19 Gracie Challenge coming to an end 
1:16:54 Baret Yoshida
1:17:01 rolling with Rico Rodriguez
1:17:51 Pacific Northwest fighters 
1:19:24 training partner John Crouch
1:19:49 Mauricio Zingano
1:21:12  Jon Burke
1:21:49 Lowell Anderson
1:22:46 Mark Baumeister
1:23:34 interview wrap up/ outro 


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Ep 245 John Perretti Extreme Fighting 3 

John Perretti joins us once again in order to continue to document the incredibly important Extreme Fighting Battlecade events. 

John Perretti is the foundation of which “Modern” MMA is built on top of; his Extreme Fighting Battlecade events are the blue prints for which grew the understanding of the sport. 

This is a fun one 

Ep 245 John Perretti Extreme Fighting Battlecade  


0:00 Lytes out intro

0:19 guest introduction

0:55 interview start 

2:51 dealing with John Perretti 

6:51 fighters getting arrested at extreme fighting 2

9:44 believing in extreme fighting promotion 

15:20 advertisements for Extreme fighting 3

16:59 finances during event 

19:18 getting kicked out of Machado gym 

20:04 John Perretti’s matchmaking 

21:28 extreme fighting match making vs ufc 

22:50 Extreme fighting DVDs 

24:51 disappearing for 20 years 

27:10 Todd Bjornethun vs Rudyard Moncoyo

28:08 Rudyard Moncoyo’s reputation outside the ring 

31:01 leg lock submissions being frowned upon 

33:33 gyms in Japan not being sanitary 

35:31 Johil De Oliveira vs John Lewis

42:46 event doctor disappearing 

44:46 dealing with Allan Goes outside of ring 

46:22 Allan Goes vs Anthony Macias

50:35 thoughts on Chuck Liddell 

53:08 dealings with Ralph Gracie 

56:16 dealings with Ryan Gracie 

57:10 Ralph Gracíe vs Ali Mihoubi

1:00:00 dealing with John Lober 

1:01:03 Igor Zinoviev vs John Lober

1:09:58 wanting to match John Lober with Rico Chiapparelli

1:10:54 Matt Hume vs Erik Paulson

1:16:30 Kazunari Murakami vs Bart Vale

1:19:27 Gerard Gordeau blinding Yuki Nakai 

1:21:16 Maurice Smith vs Marcus Silviera

1:26:24 when modern MMA began 

1:27:28 favorite memory of Extreme fighting 

1:28:52 cage height “John Lewis Rule” 

1:30:26 getting in communication with the UFC 

1:31:48 interview wrap up

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Ep 244 Miletich Fighting Systems  Championship Years - Jeremy Horn 

Pat Miletich, Matt Hughes, Jens Pulver and Tim Sylvia captured the UFC championship belts while all working out at the Miletich Fighting System in Davenport Iowa. 

Jeremy Horn was the architect and master planner behind the work that went into this incredible moment in mixed martial arts. 

Jeremy Horn and the MMA set Mike Davis discuss this historic championship run while also examining the science that went into each fight. 

Ep 244 Miletich Fighting Systems  Championship Years - Jeremy Horn 

0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 guest introduction
0:57 interview start 
0:59 making the switch to Miletich fighting systems 
2:14 reason for the move to MFS 
4:33 deciding to make fighting a career 
7:49 Matt Hughes and Pat Miletich friendship 
9:34 realizing Miletich fighting systems was special 
11:33 cornering Pat Miletich at UFC 16 
14:53 Jeremy Horn vs Frank Shamrock 
22:53 giving Vitor Belfort a pep talk. 
23:11 payment issues with the IFC
24:34 training in Montreal
25:42 cornering Mark Coleman 
29:59 Amaury Bitetti training Pat Miletech
32:49 Jens Pulver early days at MFS
35:57 Robbie Lawler at MFS
38:05 Carlos Newton vs Pat Miletich 
40:00 Matt Hughes vs Dennis Hallman 
41:45 handling a loss 
42:42 Jens Pulver winning lightweight title 
43:28 Manager Monte Cox 
47:42 Jens Pulver vs BJ Penn 
48:31 Carlos Newton vs Matt Hughes 
49:26 Matt Hughes vs Hayato Sakurai 
50:50 UFC not wanting Pat Miletich 
51:59 Robbie Lawler vs Aaron Riley 
52:25 Matt Hughes vs Carlos Newton “rematch” 
53:19 Matchmaker Joe Silva 
54:12 Tim Sylvia vs Ricco Rodriguez 
55:18 Matt Hughes vs Sean Sherk
56:34 first thoughts on Tim Sylvia 
59:27 Matt Hughes vs BJ Penn 
1:01:27 Frank Mir vs Tim Sylvia “arm break” 
1:03:32 Tim Sylvia cut from the UFC 
1:04:11 Andre Arlovski 
1:05:04 MFS winning multiple titles 
1:06:01 Tim Sylvia vs Fedor Emelianenko 
1:07:22 experience with Don Frye 
1:08:47 Rulon Gardner 
1:09:43 BJ Penn callout rumor 
1:09:56 choking out Promoter Chad Mason 
1:10:37 thoughts on Miletich fighting systems era 
1:15:09 reason for never reffing fights 
1:15:48 realizing it was time to leave Iowa 
1:18:39 50 fight club members 
1:21:08 fighters not being able to move on after career 
1:22:17 interview wrap up 
1:22:41 outro/ final thoughts 

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Ep 243 Court McGee Addiction Before the UFC 

Court McGee has a story that can compete with Ian Heinisch when it comes to their activities prior to fighting in the UFC. 
Court McGee shares with us aspects of his life and career BEFORE he got to the UFC. 

Ep 243 Court McGee Addiction Before the UFC  

0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 guest introduction
0:32 interview start 
0:40 early life/ battle with addiction
4:21 experimenting with drinking 
6:54 getting prescribed Oxycodone after injury 
8:51 being arrested for DUI while underage 
11:01 losing a college scholarship 
13:38 drug of choice 
15:28 introduced to heroin 
23:59 deciding to become sober 
27:56 the night of becoming sober 
29:45 getting a job  
31:54 early training partners 
38:00 Court McGee vs Jack Dencker
39:00 Court McGee vs Ry Stone
40:18 Court McGee vs Nick Rossborough
41:10 Competing while on probation 
43:54 beating top 3 fighters in same state 
45:08 getting phone call from friend to help get sober 
52:09 getting offer to fight Jeremy Horn 
54:03 trying out for TUF 7 
55:11 going to Jury trial 
56:17 moving out of town to train for the UFC 
58:50 attending friends funerals 
1:00:03 Process for TUF 11 tryout 
1:02:28 outro/ final thoughts 

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Ep 242 Gary Marino MMA Pioneer

Gary Marino's journey into the world of MMA started at UFC 7, having gained noteriety as both a manager and a matchmaker there isbt a job within the sport that Marino has not excelled at.
IFL team owner, Jon Jones manager and the first person to bring Kimbo Slice into the cage; Gary Marino's career is a wild ride

0:00 Lytes out intro

0:19 guest introduction

0:31 interview start 

0:48 early beginnings in MMA

4:04 being on administrative side of early UFC 

6:09 meeting Dana White prior to Zuffa 

10:13 experience with David Isaacs

14:40 Art Davie 

15:31 interactions with Buddy Albin

17:11 beginnings in managing fighters 

20:09 UFC 33 controversy 

26:30 John Perretti erased from UFC 

27:09 attending Extreme fighting 

27:55 involvement in CFFC 

32:55 relationship with Carlos Nieves

35:24 Deividas Taurosevicius vs Dan Lauzon

40:20 CFFC 4 matchmaking 

42:04 Kimbo Slice vs Sean Gannon 

48:00 getting in contact with Kimbo Slice 

55:11 Felix Martinez thoughts on CFFC 5 

58:31 CFFC 6 cancelled event 

1:01:06 money offer for 2nd Kimbo Slice fight 

1:03:59 hotel employee challenging Chuck Lidell

1:06:46 Drew Fickett vs Kenny Florian 

1:08:28 dealings with Drew Fickett 

1:10:06 meeting Jon Jones 

1:13:29 Jon Jones being a gifted fighter 

1:15:40 Jon Jones leaving management 

1:21:24 finding out CFFC went out of business 

1:24:47 Jon Jones drug test 

1:26:51 Helping out Jon Jones 

1:30:30 Jon Jones vs Stephan Bonnar 

1:33:35 using fake urine to pass drug test 

1:35:16 King of the cage being 2nd runner up to UFC 

1:38:20 Keith Evans 

1:41:07 opinion on Bruce Marshall

1:42:32 Nick Serra 

1:43:58 Shelby Walker attending UFC 50 

1:51:02 speaking on press conference for Kimbo Slice vs Ray Mercer 

1:54:33 interview wrap up/ outro 

Ep 242 Gary Marino MMA Pioneer

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Ep 241 John Dixson Career Deep Dive

John Dixson comes to us from Mississippi and is a veteran of international No Holds Barred competitions. John Dixson has fought some incredible names, Carlos Barreto, Igor Vovchancyn, Andrei Arlovski, Remco Pardoel and Jeremy Horn to name a few.

John Dixson fought in the "Outlaw Era" of Mixed Martial Arts and is one of the few Americans that had intimate dealings with mafia goops from 4 different countries. This is a wild listen, I suggest that you sit back and take this one in.

Special thank you to Preston Thigpen for helping make this episode happen.

Ep 241 John Dixson Career Deep Dive 

0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 guest introduction
0:39 plugs/ promotions 
1:35 entry to MMA
2:36 John Dixson vs Michael Stam 
3:19 Buddy Albin 
3:58 Mafia run experience 
4:57 Promoter Federico Lapenda
5:31 accusations of Buddy Albin ripping off the UFC 
7:46 John Dixson vs Igor Vovchanchyn
11:21 getting stiffed for $20,000 
14:43 John Dixson vs Carlos Barreto
20:15 Jose Pele Landi 
21:42 getting paid for Carlos Barreto fight 
22:21 John Dixson vs Maxim Tarasov 
24:14 experience with Andy Anderson 
25:54 relationship with Dan Severn 
26:34 John Dixson vs Kazunari Murakami “worked fight” 
30:15 local Mafia in Louisiana 
31:24 Russian Mafia and Japanese Mafia 
33:33 Pride 1 audience 
34:40 pay for Pride fight 
36:29 John Dixson vs Remco Pardoel 
37:43 The Dutch Mafia 
40:17 IFC 8 man Tournament 
42:15 dealings with the Dutch Mafia 
46:35 paid in Canadian Loonie for IFC 9 
47:51 breaking the ring ropes at CSO
50:06 John Dixson reffing fights 
52:40 experience with Tommy Sauer 
53:11 Vladimir Matyushenko 
57:20 promoter Jamie Levine 
58:42 John Dixson vs Andre Arlovski
1:00:26 John Dixson vs Kerry Schall 
1:00:47 John Dixson vs Tra Telligman 
1:01:24 John Dixson vs Moti Horenstein 
1:03:17 John Dixson vs Johnathan Wiezorek 
1:04:34 thoughts on Lee Coates and Rob Brandif 
1:05:15 John Dixson vs Mario Neto 
1:07:02 John Dixson vs Jonathan Ivey 
1:07:31 John Dixson vs Travis Wiuff 
1:09:47 John Dixson vs Tadas Rimkevicius 
1:11:03 student John Brown stiffed on pay by promoter 
1:11:18 Kevin Jordan
1:11:38 Robert parham
1:11:59 training Alan Belcher 
1:12:28 training Skip hall 
1:12:45 interview wrap up 
1:17:55 outro/ final thoughts 


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John Dixson comes to us from Mississippi and is a veteran of international No Holds Barred competitions. John Dixson ha

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Ep 240 Sam Hoger TUF 1 Deep Dive 

Sam Hoger was a participant on one of the most important moments within the history of the UFC. 
 The Ultimate Fighter Season 1 brought the UFC from spectacle to mainstream sport. 
Sam Hoger takes us through his journey to get on the TUF show as well as the process of the first ever Ultimate Fighter TV show. 
Sam Hoger is full of stories in this historic interview. 

Ep 240 Sam Hoger TUF 1 Deep Dive 

0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 guest introduction
0:37 interview start 
0:45 early life 
3:45 current life 
6:31 first Jiu Jitsu coach 
8:40 taking a greyhound to the Miletich fighting systems 
24:23 fighters quiting at the Miletich camp 
27:31 first day at Miletich fighting systems 
32:19 Tim Sylvia’s ground game 
33:01 getting KO’d by Tim Sylvia in training 
38:43  underground fight 
43:47 thoughts on Rich Clementi
45:53 Sam Hoger vs Robert DiMarco
50:55 location of underground fights 
55:44 Sam Hoger vs Matt Freeland
57:18 manager Joe Cavallaro 
1:00:36 TUF 1 cast members envious of Dana White 
1:03:01 Sam Hoger vs Josh Hendricks
1:06:42 promoter Corey Fisher 
1:06:57 daily training routine 
1:09:06 Brian Bresler 
1:12:13 Sam Hoger vs Adam Maciejewski
1:16:48 ring announcer Big Poppa Schnake
1:18:15 Joe Cavallaro story 
1:20:28 matchmaker Gary Marino 
1:23:24 process getting on TUF 1
1:33:39 first impressions when starting TUF 1
1:38:18 doing lines in movie”Grudge Match”
1:38:37 finding out you leave TUF house if you fail challenges 
1:39:25 finding out who TUF coaches were going to be 
1:40:28 thoughts on Marc Laimon
1:41:49 thoughts on Ganyao Fairtex
1:42:19 training with Floyd Mayweather Senior 
1:50:42 boxing coach Peter Welch
1:52:13 Jason Thacker last pick on TUF
1:57:00 Top 5 moments of UFC history 
1:59:16 accused of stealing on TUF 
2:02:09 TUF loser house 
2:03:47 taking first loss to Forrest Griffin 
2:05:24 being recognized after TUF show 
2:06:35 finding out about TUF Finale 
2:12:14 TUF 1 reunion 
2:14:13 Ryan Bennett 
2:17:31 becoming a different fighter after TUF
2:20:52 relationship with Jeremy Horn  
2:23:32 Sam Hoger Facebook questions 
2:26:02 Sam Hoger vs Jeff Newton 
2:32:18 interview wrap up/ outro 


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Ep 239 Extreme Fighting Batlecade 2 - Donald Zuckerman

Donald Zuckerman & John Perretti came together to create the Extreme Fighting Battlecade series; although they only had 4 events, what they put together can be described as the beginning of the sports “Modern Era”. 
Donald Zuckerman and John Perretti discuss an event that had its participants arrested and international scrutiny of the sport as a whole. 
This is a must listen for the hardcore history fans. 

Ep 239 Extreme Fighting Batlecade 2 - Donald Zuckerman

0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction
0:47 interview start 
0:58 current life 
1:29 plugs/ promotions 
2:08 meeting John Perretti 
4:21 Extreme fighting 1 forced to move locations 
6:00 how Exteme fighting 1 came to be 
16:10 John Perretti bringing in gloves and weight classes 
20:33 issues holding Extreme fighting 2 in Canada 
22:52 Mike Thomas 
34:05 John Perretti dealing with fighters not showing up 
38:47 hosting weigh ins 48 hours before event 
41:28 Orlando Weit honeymoon trip during event 
43:23 fighters not allowed to use bare fist at event 
44:41 Ring announcer Scott Berlinger
46:33 feelings when first fight bell rang  
47:29 fighters getting arrested at the hotel 
50:30 struggles with the production crew during event 
55:10 getting turned into the police
57:39 debuting the first 155 pound fight in MMA
59:16 negotiations with the Gracie’s 
1:04:12 rumor of bribing Federico Lapenda
1:06:07 fighter pay 
1:08:15 John Perretti explains the tournament format 
1:09:09 belts not getting recognition 
1:10:27 Executive producer Anthony Guccione
1:13:34 discovering Carlos Newton 
1:14:22 Conan Silviera vs Carl Franks
1:17:24 acquiring Madison Square Garden
For event 
1:17:52 creation of the Cage 
1:20:21 not getting credit for modernizing MMA 
1:25:31 interview wrap up/ outro  
 

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Ep 238 John Lober Career Deep Dive 

John Lober is one of the sports biggest mysteries; his body of work isnt lengthy,  but the fighters that he competed against are considered to be some of the world’s best. 

When researching John and speaking to his contemporaries, the stories of both inside and out of the cage were always intense and often times difficult to believe. 

John Lober comes to us and gives us a raw look into a man that many today both still fear and respect. 

Ep 238 John Lober Career Deep Dive 

0:00 Lytes out intro

0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction

0:42 interview start 

1:24 meeting Ken Gabrielson

2:52 training length before first fight 

3:39 John Lober vs Eric Heberstreit

5:47 IFC Canvas logo needing to be painted over

6:09 LA Underground Fight Series

9:48 featured in “When we were bouncers” book 

10:19 getting set up by Pat Miletich 

12:53 John Lober vs Jamie Faucett

14:49 getting yelled at by Gene Labell

15:38 John Lober vs Igor Zinoviev

21:06 current life 

25:42 introduction to MMA 

28:05 early training partners 

29:03 Frank Shamrock handshake Rumor

29:39 John Lober vs Frank Shamrock

36:36 growing up differently from Frank Shamrock 

38:50 defeating Frank Shamrock

39:51 opinion on John Perretti 

40:56 crossing paths with Joe Son 

44:48 Eddie Ruiz

44:56 tough fighters coming from Huntington Beach 

46:46 John Lober vs Kevin Jackson 

48:00 training with Dan Henderson 

50:38 receiving 8 red cards for hair pulling

53:00 manager Phyllis Lee

53:57 John Lober vs Osami Shibuya

55:00 Todd Medina 

56:58 training with Allan Goes 

59:33 working for City Boxing 

1:00:30 John Lober vs Ryushi Yanagisawa

1:04:46 wrestling coach Paul Hallowen 

1:05:31 thoughts on Tito Ortiz 

1:07:12 issue with Tank Abbot and his crew 

1:12:22 John Lober vs Minoru Sazuki

1:12:46 thoughts on the Japanese MMA Scene

1:17:19 Chuck Liddell fight rumor 

1:19:46 John Lober vs Frank Shamrock

1:23:04 John Perretti calling John Lober a psycho  

1:24:18 attacking Steve Heath after fight 

1:26:22 friend named Frenchy who faked his Death 

1:27:06 training with Chris Brennan 

1:28:12 getting bonded out to make weigh ins 

1:30:17 feelings towards fighting today 

1:33:45 thoughts on TiKi

1:34:28 respecting Gokor 

1:35:00 ability to predict things before they happen 

1:36:38 thoughts on Frank Shamrock 

1:37:04 Interview wrap up 

1:39:15 Outro/ final thoughts 

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ZELLE: [email protected] / ph#: 773-491-5052 


Follow the #LOP team on Instagram: 
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Andrew - Timestamps - @ambidexstress
Andy - Social Media Manager - @martial_mindset_

Outro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power

#MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #LytesOut #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #MMADetective #M

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