Allison's pregnancy update! Then, we answer a listener's question about if age is just a number (when she, younger, approached him, older). Next, they're joined by author Jacob Tobia comes by to speak about their book "Before They Were Men" and the rhetoric around men being co-survivors of patriarchy instead of solely beneficiaries. Finally, Gabe discusses some more information he’s uncovered about his ongoing chronic illness. 

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