In this episode of The Rearview Mirror Podcast, Jeff and Steve begin by wrapping up their recent conversation on leadership, tying together key insights about influence, growth, and self-awareness. From there, they shift gears to explore LifeMapping, a two-day intensive Jeff offers that helps people reflect on where they’ve been, where they are, and where they want to go in their careers, relationships, and lives.

The conversation centers on the midlife season—not as a specific age, but as a pivotal stage of transformation. Drawing on Richard Rohr’s Journey of Transformation, Jeff and Steve discuss the three possible paths we can take during this time: doubling down and doing more the same thing, giving up and living an Eeyore life of resignation and self-pity, or embracing the deeper work of spiritual and personal growth and renewal. The episode offers practical wisdom and honest reflection for anyone navigating life’s “middle chapters” and wondering what’s next.