In this episode, we sit down with Erica Small and Nikki Huganir, the co-founders of Yes Way Rosé — a wine brand that started as a $200 tote bag and an Instagram account in 2013 and has since grown into one of the top rosé brands in the US, with over 13 million bottles sold and retail placement at Target, Publix, Total Wine, Walmart, and beyond. What makes their story so compelling for marketers: they built an entirely formed lifestyle brand — rooted in humor, female friendship, and culture — before they ever made a single bottle of wine. Erica and Nikki open up about how their fashion, media, and design backgrounds shaped the brand's voice and visual identity from day one, why they chose to grow without outside capital, how they're navigating marketing to both their original millennial audience and a growing Gen Z consumer base, and what led them to finally launch a non-alcoholic rosé in 2026. 

Key Takeaways:

// Build the brand before you build the product. Yes Way Rosé launched as a lifestyle brand and Instagram community in 2013 — five years before the wine hit shelves in 2018. By the time the product launched, the brand DNA was fully formed: the voice, the aesthetic, the community, the point of view. The wine had a home to come into.

// Your creative background is a competitive advantage — even in an unexpected industry. Erica's years as a fashion editor shaped how Yes Way Rosé tells stories and spots cultural moments. Nikki's graphic design background meant the brand had a distinct, immediately recognizable visual identity from the very first tote bag. Neither had a wine background — and that turned out to be the point.

// Community built before a product is the most durable kind. The Yes Way Rosé audience was already engaged, loyal, and bought in before there was ever anything to buy. That foundation is a big part of why the brand is up 20% in a category that's down 4%.

// IRL marketing is back — and rosé is built for it. The "Bottle the Feeling" campaign — New York billboards, boats in Miami — is rooted in the belief that a brand like Yes Way Rosé needs to show up where people are actually living the moments the brand represents. Liquid to lips, in the right places, remains the most important marketing lever they have.

// The Gen Z and millennial sweet spot is relatability, not segmentation. Rather than building separate strategies for each audience, Yes Way Rosé looks for the overlap — content that's relatable, culturally relevant, and speaks the language of both groups. TikTok is a current priority, with the understanding that millennials are there too.

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Learn More: Website

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In this episode, Ally sits down with Meredith Mills-Merritt, founder and CEO of The Original Southside, a premium ready-to-drink gin cocktail inspired by her mom's summer recipe that has grown into 20+ markets, landed on shelves at Whole Foods and Total Wine, and seen shipments grow more than 370% in its second year. Meredith brings a background in prestige beauty brand management that shaped everything about how she built Southside, from putting a full ingredient list on her cans (a rarity in alcohol) to investing in in-person demo and event marketing over digital spend. She opens up about navigating the alcohol industry's notoriously complex three-tier distribution system, how landing early partnerships with the Stanley Cup–winning Florida Panthers and LSU Athletics accelerated the brand's growth, and what she'd tell any aspiring founder sitting on an idea in their notes app right now.

Key Takeaways:

// 95% of the marketing budget goes to in-person, IRL events, and it's working. Demos, tastings, and events where consumers are already in a consumption mindset are where Southside wins the most efficiently. Her tip: book the 4–7pm demo slot at Whole Foods, not the 11am one — because alcohol shopping is a mindset, not just a product category. When people try it, they buy it. That's the whole strategy.

// Take calculated risks on partnerships early, even when they feel too big. When the Florida Panthers and LSU Athletics came calling, Meredith said yes, not because she had the budget of a legacy brand, but because arenas and live events are exactly the consumption environments that drive trial at scale. Those early partnerships created case studies she now uses to unlock new distributors, retailers, and markets.

// The alcohol industry has a transparency problem, and consumers deserve better. Alcohol is one of the only major consumer categories where ingredient labeling isn't legally required. Meredith discovered during her own production process that a proposed additive (sodium benzoate) could produce benzene when combined with vitamin C — a known carcinogen. That discovery delayed her launch by six months and eventually led her to co-found the Clean Alcohol Collective.

// If you're already thinking about starting something, that's the sign. Meredith's advice for aspiring founders: if you're already turning the idea over in your mind, you probably won't be at peace until you try it. The messy middle between failure and exit is where the real growth happens — and even if it doesn't work out, you'll come out the other side with something you built for yourself.

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Cassie sits down with Elle Rudnick, Manager of Integrated Marketing at Rare Beauty, to talk about what it really takes to build a community-first brand in a category that's saturated with brands claiming to be exactly that. Elle brings a unique lens shaped by nearly a decade across fashion and beauty — from merchandising to brand marketing — and walks us through how she's translating that experience into Rare Beauty's integrated strategy across social, influencer, PR, and partnerships. She breaks down the no-phone, no-photos community dinner series she launched within months of joining the brand, why she's had to redefine what "perfect" means in a fast-moving industry, and the communication and collaboration skills she considers the highest-leverage investment of her career. If you're trying to build a brand people feel something for — not just buy from — this conversation is full of specific, actionable takeaways.

Key Takeaways:

// Consumer behavior doesn't change just because the product does. Elle's transition from apparel to beauty taught her that both categories are ultimately about identity — apparel is how people express themselves outwardly, beauty is more intimate, about how people see themselves and want to be seen. That insight sharpened her approach to emotional marketing across the board.

// Consumers can tell when you're "just posting to post." The biggest trend Elle is seeing: people want real connection, not surface-level content. Brands that treat community as a checkbox get called out fast — the ones that actually build with their audience earn deeper loyalty.

// Redefine what "perfect" means in a fast-moving industry. Early in her career, Elle equated perfect with flawless. Now, she defines it as clear, intentional, and aligned — because waiting for 100% polish means missing the moment entirely. Her approach: get to a strategically sound place, then execute and iterate based on real-time consumer feedback.

// The best campaigns make people think "wait, that's literally me." Elle's taste as a marketer is rooted in emotional relatability — honesty, nostalgia, humor, and small human details. Aspiration still matters, but she's far more drawn to aspiration that feels attainable and emotionally grounded than to anything overly polished or manufactured.

// "Community first" is becoming a buzzword — and consumers are starting to expect proof, not just claims. Elle is watching closely to see which brands actually back up the label with real action, and is intentional about making sure Rare Beauty's community initiatives are recognizable as distinctly theirs, not just another version of what everyone else is doing.

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In this episode, we sit down with Brieane (Brie) Olson, CEO of PacSun, for a conversation that is equal parts brand strategy masterclass and career inspiration. Brie has spent nearly two decades at PacSun — moving from design and product to marketing and digital before stepping into the CEO role three years ago — and has led one of retail's most remarkable transformation stories, taking the brand from bankruptcy to a Harvard Business School case study and a cult following with Gen Z. She opens up about the viral TikTok moment that shaped PacSun's entire philosophy around co-creation, why most brands are fundamentally misunderstanding Gen Z and Gen Alpha, and what it actually looks like to give your customers a real seat at the table — not just a focus group. She also digs into her own leadership journey, why she went back to school at 40, and what she'd tell anyone trying to build something meaningful from wherever they're starting. Her new book, Co-Created, is out now.

Key Takeaways:

// Treat your customers as co-creators, not an audience. The turning point in PacSun's story came when an everyday consumer — not a contracted influencer — filmed a TikTok in her bedroom that sold 11,000 pairs of jeans in under 48 hours. The lesson Brie took from it: when you truly empower customers to love and represent your brand, the results can far outpace anything a paid campaign produces.

// Give Gen Z an actual seat at the table — not just a survey. PacSun's Youth Advisory Council brings together 14 young people aged 12 to 26 who function like a board of directors — weighing in on tech initiatives, marketing campaigns, and strategy. Social listening is a starting point, but the brands that win are the ones creating formal structures to involve their community in real decisions.

// Experiential retail isn't complicated:  the mall is back, and unexpected pop-ups are winning. Gen Z and Gen Alpha want to touch product, hang out with friends, and be surprised. PacSun has seen major success showing up trackside at Formula One in Austin, at Goofball, and in other culturally-relevant spaces. Meeting the customer in moments that matter to them — not just in places convenient to the brand — is the new retail playbook.

// You don't need a title to start leading. Brie's advice for early-career listeners: stay deeply curious, build relationships relentlessly, never stay too rigidly in your lane, and do more than what's expected of you. She also makes the point that identifying what's blocking your growth — and taking action on it — matters more than waiting for the right opportunity. She went back to school at 40. It's never too late to fill the gap.

Connect with Brie: LinkedIn

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In this episode, we sit down with Mady Lanni, Senior PR Strategist at Manychat — the social media automation platform powering those viral "comment to get the link" moments you see across Instagram and TikTok every day. Mady's path to PR wasn't linear (criminal justice degree, anyone?), and that outside perspective has shaped a refreshingly sharp, social-first approach to a field that's rapidly changing. She gets real about the slow death of traditional newsrooms and what it means for brands still relying on press releases, why journalists are migrating from X to LinkedIn and how to meet them there, how to move fast on reactive PR without sacrificing brand integrity, and why your most powerful spokespeople might not be your executives — they might be your creators. If you work in PR, marketing, or communications and want to understand where the industry is actually headed, this episode is your roadmap.

Key Takeaways:

// Social is where the news breaks first — follow it accordingly. Mady starts every morning in her social feed, not her inbox. Trending conversations happen on social before they hit anywhere else, and the PR pros who catch them earliest are the ones who get the reactive coverage. 

// Newsrooms are shrinking, and modern PR has to evolve with them. Traditional media outlets are downsizing. Journalists are building their own Substacks and newsletters. What "media" means is fundamentally shifting.

// LinkedIn is the new Twitter for journalists. Mady sees a clear migration happening: journalists who used to live on X are moving to LinkedIn for connections, relationship-building, and DMs. 

// Always be able to answer "okay, and so what?" Before pitching any story, Mady asks herself whether the news genuinely matters to anyone outside the marketing team. If the only people excited about it are internal, it's a brand moment, not a PR moment. 

// Creators are replacing executives as the most credible spokespeople. Journalists and readers are craving authenticity, and polished executive quotes often fall flat. 

// Press releases are a tool, not a strategy. The future of PR is more creative, more relatable, and more human. 

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Five years ago, Marketing Happy Hour was launched from scratch — Canva logo, Google searches, and zero podcasting experience. In this milestone episode, Cassie walks through the full arc of her career: from a self-pitched internship at a Florida restaurant group to a pivotal move to New York City, from leaving a stable agency job to start her own business in 2019, to building MHH into the community it is today. Cassie gets refreshingly honest about the comparison trap of entrepreneurship, why she stopped chasing the "big brand on the resume" and started following what she actually loves, and the one piece of advice she'd give her younger self. 

Key Takeaways:

// Cold pitching with concrete ideas beats cold pitching with just your resume. When Cassie landed her first internship — at a restaurant group with no open listing — she didn't just ask "can I help?" She came with specific ideas and made it easy for the hiring manager to say yes. The lesson: don't make the person on the other end do the work of figuring out how you fit.

// The biggest career accelerator is often the move you're scared to make. For Cassie, that was packing up and moving from Tampa to New York City. It pulled her out of a hospitality bubble and into big brand, agency-level experience that changed everything. You don't have to move across the country — but being open to expanding the type of roles and environments you're in is what unlocks the next level.

// Build a career on what you keep saying yes to. Cassie still doesn't have a singular "dream job" figured out — and she's at peace with that. What she does know is the types of projects that light her up: podcasting, production, storytelling, events. Following that thread, rather than a fixed five-year plan, has shaped her career more than any roadmap would have.

// The comparison trap is real — but it can be reframed. Everyone's timing is different. Everyone's journey has challenges you can't see from the outside. Instead of comparing, Cassie recommends using other people's careers as a research tool: study how they got there, reach out, ask questions, and let it inform your own path rather than measure against it.

// Give yourself grace. The advice Cassie would give younger Cassie — and the one she still needs to hear. You won't be perfect every day. Not everything has to make sense right now. Be patient with the journey, surround yourself with the right people, and trust that the pieces are connecting — even when you can't see how yet.

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In this episode, we sit down with Jeff Lee, CEO and co-founder of DIBS Beauty, one of the fastest-growing color cosmetics brands in the country, now carried in over 1,300 Ulta Beauty doors with a product waitlist culture that generated 17K+ sign-ups before their mascara even launched. Jeff's path to beauty CEO is anything but conventional: Yale Law, Wall Street, Stanford MBA, Alex Rodriguez, and a co-founding partnership built entirely over Zoom. He breaks down what DIBS got right in the first six to twelve months, why your product doesn't have to be the most innovative — just the most useful, and how being the "first beauty founder to visit an Ulta in all 50 states" taught him more about selling than anything else. He also gets real about career pivots, the myth of the founder story, burnout as a natural cycle, and why the in-store conversation still produces 10x the order value of anything you can do online.

Key Takeaways:

// Don't design for yourself. One of the most common founder mistakes is assuming you are the customer. Jeff isn't the end user of most of DIBS's products — and leaning into his co-founder Courtney's existing audience was the honest advantage they doubled down on from day one.

// Your advantage tells you your customer, not the other way around. Start with where you have a real edge, then build toward it. Sublimate the ego. The brand that's built for a broader audience will always outperform the brand built for the founder's taste.

// In-store still wins at 10x. For all the magic of influencers, social commerce, and a full digital stack — DIBS's highest order values come the moment a real conversation happens in-store. The customer arrives pre-sold from online; the store is where she converts at scale.

// Your brand needs to be in the conversation before she walks in. A beautiful end cap alone won't do it. Customers now come in with a predisposition — either for or against you. Your digital presence, influencer strategy, and brand awareness work determines what happens before the store visit even begins.

// Burnout is a cycle, not a finish line. Jeff reframes the burnout conversation entirely — it's not something to avoid, it's something to move through. The question isn't how to never burn out; it's whether you reignite on the other side.

// Going backwards to go forwards is a real strategy. Jeff took a 90% pay cut to pivot into beauty. But he's equally clear-eyed: that choice was made possible by financial stability built first. Solve for what actually matters in your life before romanticizing the leap.

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How do you breathe new life into a legacy brand without losing the clinical authority that made it famous? In this episode, Blair Lancer, CMO of Lancer Skincare, pulls back the curtain on her journey from a fashion-focused career at Saks Fifth Avenue to leading the strategic evolution of her family’s dermatology-backed empire. Blair discusses the nuances of the "multigenerational" approach—balancing her father’s scientific expertise with her own relatable, digitally native voice to reach a younger luxury consumer. We explore the "Practice to Product" philosophy, why she chooses to ignore fleeting industry trends in favor of long-term efficacy, and how the brand is preparing for the future of skincare through AI-driven personalization. Whether you are building a brand from scratch or managing a heritage business, this conversation offers a masterclass in staying authentic while evolving for the modern market.

Key Takeaways:

// The "Practice to Product" Standard: True clinical credibility comes from products that mimic real in-office dermatological procedures, such as "The Polish" mimicking professional microdermabrasion.

// Evolving the Visual Language: To avoid being viewed as "your mother's brand," a legacy business must revamp its digital presence and packaging to feel approachable and lighter while maintaining its core DNA.

// Mindset Over Trends: Chasing buzzwords and "white-labeling" products leads to diluted brand authority; instead, wait for ingredient technology to improve so that products drive repeat purchases through results, not hype.

// The Power of Two Voices: Modernizing a founder-led brand doesn't mean replacing the founder; it means pairing their technical expertise with a relatable, younger voice to broaden the brand's appeal.

// The Career "Dot" Theory: Success often comes from saying "yes" to adjacent roles—like Blair moving from PR to Product Development—which allows you to understand the brand from inception to consumer feedback.

// Hiring for "Zest": In an automated world, hiring should prioritize a candidate’s passion, ambition, and life experiences over a perfect resume alone.

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In this episode, we sit down with Elijah Khasabo, co-founder of Vidovo — a UGC and influencer platform connecting brands with creators — who started his entrepreneurial journey at 17, built a Discord community of 30,000 organically, and is now weeks away from graduating college while running a bootstrapped platform with 300+ brand clients and 25,000+ creators. Elijah breaks down why the creator economy has become a volume game, why creative briefs make or break campaign performance, and what brands consistently get wrong when managing creator relationships. He also shares his honest take on AI-generated content (spoiler: consumers are already calling it out), what inspires his strategy approach, and the two pieces of advice he'd give any entrepreneur just getting started.

Key Takeaways:

// The creator economy is now a volume game. Consumer touchpoints have grown from 8–12 to an estimated 21–24+. Brands that are winning understand that performance marketing requires testing multiple hooks, angles, and creators across platforms — not just finding one or two winning ads.

// The brief is the most important variable. A strong brief with creative freedom will outperform a rigid script every time. Give creators guidelines (do's and don'ts), not a teleprompter — and let them deliver in their own voice.

// Creators are businesses now. The best creators understand performance, rate cards, and why ads work. Elijah hired his top-performing creator as his head of strategy — proof that lived creator experience translates directly into better briefs.

// Don't make it transactional. Brands that lead with communication — getting to know creators before the collab happens — consistently build longer-term partnerships and better-performing content. Pay fairly (Elijah recommends $200–$500 for quality UGC), and don't skip the relationship-building step.

// AI content gets views, but real creators convert. Brands that tested AI content are coming back to real creators because consumers notice and call it out. Use AI for strategy and briefing — not for the content itself.

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What happens when a non-tech founder decides to stop "pushing" prompts and starts "pulling" solutions from AI? Kahlea Wade, founder of Alora Society, returns for her record-breaking third appearance to share how she is reinventing her luxury talent agency through the power of Claude and AI agents. Kahlea walks us through her "aha moment"—building a fully functional internal onboarding app from 500 pages of documentation in just a weekend—and explains why she now treats Claude as a strategic teammate. From streamlining soul-crushing admin tasks to navigating the ethical boundaries of generative AI in the creator economy, this episode is an essential guide for any professional ready to move from AI curiosity to AI proficiency.

Key Takeaways:

// The "Teammate" Mindset: Stop treating AI as a search engine or a tool; treat it as a brainstorming partner, market researcher, and strategist to unlock its true potential.

// Pull vs. Push Prompting: Instead of telling AI what to do (push), describe your frustrations and goals and ask the AI to design the solution (pull).

// The Claude Ecosystem Explained: Understand the difference between Claude Chat (ideation), Claude Co-work (agent building and connectors), and Claude Code (efficient, terminal-based execution).

// "Life-Quake" Automation: Use AI to handle the "mental load" of tasks like email categorization, task prioritization in ClickUp, and daily industry news briefings.

// Human Agency & Taste: While AI can take over "workflows," it cannot replace "roles." Humans remain the only ones capable of establishing "taste," sharing lived experiences, and navigating complex emotions.

// The Experimentation Mandate: The only way to overcome AI fear is through "summer shred" style consistency—spending time tinkering with platforms like Lovable and Poppy AI to see what is actually possible.

// Claude (Chat, Co-work, Code): Her primary "teammate" for writing and agency operations.

// Lovable: The "no-code" savior used to build her internal team app.

// Poppy AI: A visual "vision board" interface that houses multiple LLMs (Grok, Gemini, Claude) for content analysis.

// ClickUp & Make: The connective tissue used to turn AI outputs into automated business tasks.

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