In this fascinating interview with Greg, we learn more of his story of reconciling his faith and sexuality. We also talk about how Jesus releases us from shame.

In the second half, we discuss Greg's book, Still time to Care, which explains the history of the ex-gay movement, how terminology has changed and how we can move from a paradigm of cure to a paradigm of care for sexual minorities.

Resources mentioned

• Gay Shame and Jesus Greg Johnson
• Still Time to Care Greg Johnson
• Still Time to Care: A Review Ed Shaw
• The Velvet Rage: Overcoming the Pain of Growing Up Gay in a Straight Man's World Alan Downs
• Revoice website