This was one of the first episodes of the Mindful Strength Podcast that has been re-edited because it has been an all-time favourite. Kathryn and Michael started working together in 2013. Shortly after, they co-created an online course called the New Wave of Yoga which created a bridge between postural yoga and strength training. In this episode they talk about what yoga and mindfulness practice are and how they feel, both sharing their own personal experiences. Michael talks about the changes he started to make in his practice, away from the ashtanga practice and into an individualized system that combined gym training, contemporary dance and mobility. He also talks about mental states, how he struggled with depression as a young person and how there are always a lot of feelings to be had. This episode was originally released just a couple of weeks after Michael passed away, and it's one of those recordings that feels timeless.

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