How the way of Jesus invites us to rethink gun violence, church leadership, and what it really means to be “pro-life.” In this powerful conversation, Mike and Tim are joined by author, activist, and Red Letter Christian co-founder Shane Claiborne for a deeply compelling and often hilarious episode exploring faith, justice, and embodied discipleship. While reflecting on his own spiritual evolution (including an early obsession with leadership books, apologetics, and megachurch culture), Mike shares the deeply spiritual act of letting go—literally—through a symbolic home purge involving a dumpster he nicknames “Gehenna.”

The conversation leads into a rich introduction to Shane Claiborne, who shares updates on his mobile-bus lifestyle, his blacksmithing work transforming guns into garden tools, and why embodied activism matters more than intellectual arguments.

Key Takeaways: • From Head to Heart Faith – Mike reflects on discarding leadership theory and apologetics books as part of a spiritual re-centering around embodiment and mental health. • What It Really Means to Be Pro-Life – Shane reframes "pro-life" to include a consistent ethic regarding immigration, the death penalty, racial justice, gun violence, and more. • Guns to Garden Tools (Literally) – Shane details the sacred work of transforming decommissioned firearms into tools for cultivation and peace, inspired by Isaiah and Micah. • Beyond Deconstruction – Faith revival isn’t just tearing down toxic systems but building life-giving alternatives—through embodied justice, humility, and community. • Prophetic Imagination and Activist Discipleship – A call to model the church as a radical alternative shaped by the Sermon on the Mount, not political ideology.

Guest Highlights: Shane Claiborne – Speaker, activist, and co-founder of Red Letter Christians, Shane shares personal stories from his childhood in East Tennessee (clown school and Bon Jovi included), why he’s traveling the country in a school bus, and how blacksmithing and communal grief have energized his spiritual life.

Resources Mentioned: • Red Letter Christians • RAWTools – Guns into Garden Tools • Book: Beating Guns by Shane Claiborne and Michael Martin • Matthew Sorens – World Relief • Instagram Account: Black Coffee with White Friends

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As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram.

We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV.

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Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford

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