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Cody Wyoming temple update! there’s still a lot going on with the Cody temple situation and Mormonish was able to talk to our friends on the Preserve Our Cody Neighborhood committee to get an update on the latest information!

If you haven’t watched our full episode on the Cody Wyoming temple story, check out the link below! And if you’d like to help support the Cody neighborhood group, you send go to Preserve Our Cody Neighborhood on Facebook to get links and information about how to help!

Episode on the situation in Cody

https://youtu.be/ho4FHWoWItE

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In episode three of this series, Dr. John Knight Lundwall discusses his third thesis, “The text of the Book of Mormon cannot be derived from the description of the gold plates.” Dr. Lundwall re-examines the claim that an ancient, one-thousand-year history was written on a stack of gold plates in an unknown language by looking at the gold plates themselves (as described by witnesses and others). While other critical analysis has been done on this subject, Lundwall reviews the debate and adds some insights of his own.

Specifically, Dr. Lundwall reviews the most common artifacts used by apologists to show writing on metal plates in an ancient Near Eastern or American context, and then shows that every example they use are ritual texts belonging to a different thought-world that this series has highlighted. Instead of supporting the claims of the LDS Church, these examples continue to deconstruct the claims for historicity of the Book of Mormon text.

Finally, Dr. Lundwall discusses the physical properties and measurements of the plates and contrasts that with an analysis of textual density of both ancient examples and modern re-creations. He ends this analysis with a discussion of the Book of Ether in the Book of Mormon text, which gives us a description of plates, content, and Joseph Smith’s assumptions about textual density using ancient languages.

Lundwall finishes this podcast with a discussion of several key assumptions Joseph Smith had when constructing the history and text of the Book of Mormon. These assumptions are embedded in the worldview of both the Book of Mormon and Mormonism, and are deeply problematic for claims to historicity and authenticity for the supposed sacred text.

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What happens when the LDS church wants to build a temple in your town? In this episode of Mormonish, Rebecca and Landon dig into the ongoing Cody, WY temple situation to uncover the tactics the church is using to manipulate the outcome.

The new temple is slated to be built in a neighborhood not zoned for this type of structure. With concerns over traffic, dark skies, height requirements, and more, a group of citizens have formed “Preserve Our Cody Neighborhoods” to try to relocate the temple to a more appropriate site. The fight is heating up and emotions are high as the church filed two lawsuits and threatened to bankrupt the city with legal action. We discuss the situation with Cody resident Yvonne Chandler who gives us the inside scoop into this currently unfolding story.

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On another collaborative episode in The Gospel Topics Essays Series with The Backyard Professor, Rebecca and Landon dive into the Gospel Topics Essay, "DNA and Book of Mormon Studies" with special guest, anthropologist Dr. Thomas Murphy. Mormons of a certain age all grew up knowing that the Book of Mormon was a record of the Nephites and Lamanites who were the "principle" ancestors of the Native Americans today. In the last few decades, new DNA evidence has disputed this claim and caused the LDS church to make changes to this centuries old narrative. We are now told that the people of the Book of Mormon were "among" the ancestors of Native Americans today. This very informative episode delves into DNA studies of indigenous populations, migration patterns, the church's ever changing narrative, and more. It was amazing to have this discussion with two scholars as knowledgeable as The Backyard Professor and Dr. Thomas Murphy.

In Laman's Terms Video:

https://www.cultureunplugged.com/documentary/watch-online/play/1590/in-laman-s-terms-looking-at-lamanite-identity

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Links to Published Articles by Thomas Murphy:

Murphy, Thomas W, Simon Southerton and Angelo Baca, "Science and Fiction: Kennewick Man/Ancient One in Latter-day Saint Discourse." : https://www.academia.edu/88679212/Science_and_Fiction_Kennewick_Man_Ancient_One_in_Latter_day_Saint_Discourse

Murphy, Thomas W and Angelo Baca. "DNA and the Book of Mormon: Science, Settlers, and Scripture.": https://www.academia.edu/60074444/DNA_and_the_Book_of_Mormon_Science_Settlers_and_Scripture

Murphy, Thomas W and Angelo Baca, "Rejecting Racism in Any Form: Latter-day Saint Rhetoric, Religion, and Repatriation.":

https://www.academia.edu/28462045/Rejecting_Racism_in_Any_Form_Latter_day_Saint_Rhetoric_Religion_and_Repatriation

Murphy, Thomas W, "Sin, Skin, and Seed: Mistakes of Men in the Book of Mormon.":

https://www.academia.edu/10367026/Sin_Skin_and_Seed_Mistakes_of_Men_in_the_Book_of_Mormon

Murphy, Thomas W, "Simply Implausible: DNA and a Mesoamerican Setting for the Book of Mormon.":

https://www.academia.edu/10722103/Simply_Implausible_DNA_and_a_Mesoamerican_Setting_for_the_Book_of_Mormon

Murphy, Thomas W, "Lamanite Genesis, Genealogy, and Genetics." :

https://www.academia.edu/11588731/Lamanite_Genesis_Genealogy_and_Genetics

Mormonish joins Mormon News Roundup to dive into all the news in the Mormon landscape this week. We always love collaborating with Dives as we dissect all the interesting new of the day. Catch up and be in the know! You can watch Mormon News Roundup each week on Sunday night at 7:30 MT

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In Part 2 of Mormonish Podcast's ongoing series, Dr. John K. Lundwall expounds on his research discussed in Part 1, New Groundbreaking Research Dismantles Book of Mormon Authenticity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu6VV9Nfq3E

Dr. Lundwall further probes the problems with Book of Mormon authenticity based on oral, secondary oral, and literary cultures in the pre–Columbian Americas. He also responds to comments and questions regarding the first installment of this series.

As we dive deeper into these concepts, Dr. Lundwall discusses how monotheism developed through multiple threads of history. While writing-systems form a cultural and intellectual framework of thought in which new religious ideas may grow, social and political contexts also play an equal role in the development of monotheism.

We also learn more about religious practices based on ritual and sacred place and the transition between temple theology versus individual, internalized worship, which was the common world view in the 19th century but did not exist in the Book of Mormon era.

The evolution of ritual and cosmological religion rooted in agriculture to a textualized religion rooted in laws, doctrines, and sermons, for example, the Torah, didn't actually occur until centuries after the Nephites left Jerusalem.

One of the more surprising discussion points Dr. Lundwall brings up involves the actual worship practices that existed in the pre Columbian Americas. Yes, we're going to talk about human sacrifice and headhunting.

This episode is scholarly in nature, but we encourage everyone to take a good look at this research and data. It's fascinating.

Dr. Lundwall will address the further points of his thesis, a) one cannot obtain the text of the Book of Mormon from the description of the gold plates, b) the characters copied by the scribes and witnesses purportedly from the gold plates are fabricated and can be falsified, and c) the standard of proof for the Book of Mormon resides only in a tight translation, in upcoming episodes. Please stay tuned!

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On this episode of Mormonish, Rebecca and Landon sit down with the amazing Kyle Bishop, a faith transitions coach, whose organization "Beyond God and Religion" is helping people everyday to move past religious trauma and thrive in new lives. Kyle is a major presence on Tik ToK and Instagram as he works to help people move away from damaging belief systems and toward a new way of living that creates space for who you are amd what you actually believe. Kyle discusses his own faith transiton and the lesson he learned that allow him to help others let go of guilt and shame and become authentic with a new identiy and purpose outside of a religious context. This was a wonderul conversation and Kyle is a beautiful soul. We encourage everyone to look Kyle up on Tik Tok and learn more about "Beyond God and Religion." The tools and insights

https://www.beyondgodandreligion.com/

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Is the LDS church making progress when it comes to child protection? Mormonish podcast cohosts Rebecca and Landon are joined by the wonderful Sam Young from Protect Every Child, and Ian Wilks and Jim Bennett from Inside Out Podcast, to discuss the recent positive developments in church policy on background checks in the UK. Sam shares his story as he fought to implement changes to stop in appropriate bishop interviews with youth church wide over the last decade. And Ian shares the never before heard backstory of attempts to require background checks and protect children in the UK two decades ago. This is a very important episode about what the church is doing and can do to ensure the safety of all children. We appreciate our guests weighing in and sharing insight into this very serious issue.

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Can you be a moral person once you’ve stepped away from your religion? This seems to be a question that is often asked about someone who has left their faith. On this episode of Mormonish Podcast, we dive into ethics and morality with our special guest, Widow’s Mite spokesperson, Professor Spencer Anderson. Spencer has recently appeared in the last of a three part Mormon Stories series on church finance and will soon appear on Mormonism Live to drop another financial bombshell from the Widow’s Mite. There are many ethical and moral questions they arise in these discussions about church finance and Rebecca and Landon take it to a broader level with Professor Spencer to discuss the whole spectrum of morality in society and individual ethics. We delve into this question by basing our discussion on one of Professor Spencer‘s favorite books, “How to Be Perfect: The Correct Answer to Every Moral Question” by Michael Schur, creator of “The Good Place.” We just loved all the insights Professor Spencer shared! We think you’ll really enjoy this discussion as much as we did!

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Dr. John Knight Lundwall, who holds a PhD. in comparative myth and religion, joins Mormonish to provide a groundbreaking analysis of oral versus literary societies in the pre–Columbian Americas. His extensive scholarly work proves that it's impossible for a book with the literary complexity of the Book of Mormon to have even existed anywhere in the Americas during the Book of Mormon era. We consider this research to be incontrovertible evidence that the Book of Mormon is not a historical record. This episode is scholarly in nature and Dr. Lundwall does an amazing job of giving us a graduate-level course in just a few hours. Once you understand the concepts of oral versus literary societies, the conclusions will be obvious and the evidence clear. This is absolutely groundbreaking, and we believe is a completely new way to examine the historicity of the Book of Mormon.

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