Closing Song: "All Fire" by Carolyn Arends

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In this episode, Shane Claiborne engages in an enlightening conversation with accomplished singer-songwriter Carolyn Arends. They discuss her musical journey, the resonant impact of her songs, and her deep-rooted faith. The episode also delves into Carolyn's involvement with Renovaré, an organization focused on spiritual renewal, and her personal connections with influential musician Rich Mullins. Through stories and reflections, they explore the intersection of music, faith, and social justice, offering insights into maintaining integrity and transparency in Christian ministry.