Neuroshambles

Mark is joined once more by Neuroshambles favourite Pete Wharmby as they take a deep dive into rejection sensitivity dysphoria (RSD). They look at what RSD actually is, why it isn't an official diagnosis, and why it's most famously linked with ADHD but seems to show up across other neurodivergent people too.

Pete shares how RSD plays out for him, from avoiding his own Amazon reviews to the rumination that can write off a whole week, and why he suspects much of what gets called RSD is really a trauma response to a lifetime of corrective criticism. Mark brings tales from the trenches of his own neurochaotic setup to discuss how RSD could be showing up differently in his three kids.

Along the way they unpick perfectionism, people pleasing, the class clown and what we can do to help reduce the impact of RSD for our neurodivergent kids.

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Links to stuff we mention in this episode

Different Minds: How We Can Help Our Autistic School Children Thrive, by Pete Wharmby - https://amzn.eu/d/06eJRnUX

Pete Wharmby’s website: https://petewharmby.com/

Emily Katy’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/itsemilykaty/

Emily Katy Substack - https://itsemilykaty.substack.com/p/i-walked-300-miles-on-the-south-west

Spilling the Tea on Autism and ADHD, Michaela Silsby - https://www.instagram.com/spilling_the_tea_on_autism/

Rejection sensitivity dysphoria (RSD) - https://www.additudemag.com/rejection-sensitive-dysphoria-and-adhd/

The double empathy problem - https://www.autism.org.uk/learn/knowledge-hub/professional-practice/double-empathy

📣 CONTACT NEUROSHAMBLES

📧 Email: [email protected]

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🌐 Website: https://www.neuroshambles.com

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▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuroshambles

📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neuroshambles/

📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Neuroshambles

🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neuroshamblespod

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To kick off season four of Neuroshambles, Mark is joined by returning guest Rebecca Huseyin, as they discuss their recent experiences of taking neurodivergent kids abroad. Turns out, neither trip was for the faint hearted, but they have both sufficiently recovered to be able to compare notes and look at the highs and lows of their respective adventures.

They dig into the challenges of holidaying with autistic, ADHD and PDA kids: choosing a destination when everyone needs to be on board, the nightmares of packing, surviving airports, flights and working out what your kids are able to manage when you actually get there. Mark and Rebecca swap honest autistic parenting advice on special assistance, sunflower lanyards, feeding kids when the food is unfamiliar and what happens when the end of the holiday goes disastrously wrong.

It’s not all bad though, Mark and Rebecca look at the positives, shout out some neurodiversity champions, share their tiny epic wins and round things off with some classic What the Flip moments from the holiday. It’s a candid, funny and relatable listen for any neurodivergent parenting podcast fan, and for anyone who has ever wondered whether a family trip is even possible.

CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS (ESTIMATED)

00:00:00 Welcome to season four

LINKS TO STUFF WE MENTION IN THIS EPISODE

Neuroshambles YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@Neuroshambles

A Boy Less Ordinary (Rebecca’s blog) - https://aboylessordinary.com/

PDA Society - https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/

Lalandia - https://www.lalandia.dk/en/billund

Airport special assistance - https://hdsunflower.com/uk/insights/post/the-autistic-traveller

Hidden Disabilities Sunflower - https://hdsunflower.com/

Google Translate (camera translation feature) - https://translate.google.com/

📣 CONTACT NEUROSHAMBLES

📧 Email: [email protected]

✨ MORE FROM NEUROSHAMBLES

🌐 Website: https://www.neuroshambles.com

📬 Mailing list: https://preview.mailerlite.io/forms/2414072/190019322933937234/share

▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuroshambles

📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neuroshambles/

📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Neuroshambles

🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neuroshamblespod

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The final episode of season 3 marks a first for Neuroshambles, as it’s the first ever live recording, performed in front of an audience. Mark is joined by returning guest Lisa Lloyd (@asd_with_a_g_and_t) for a raucous and laughter-filled discussion around what it's like to be a neurodivergent parent raising neurodivergent kids.

They examine a wide range of autistic, ADHD and PDA traits, and discuss how each of these can impact a neurodivergent parents’ experience of raising neurodivergent kids. They shine light onto sensory sensitivity, touch aversion, and the chaos that unplanned changes can cause in a home that runs on routine. They also talk candidly about masking, difficulty with social interactions with other parents, executive functioning, rejection sensitivity and the challenge of navigating your own overwhelm while supporting a child through meltdown.

There are plenty of positives too, as Mark and Lisa find the upside of autism parenting in shared understanding, a healthy disregard for authority, and the sense of injustice that fuels so many neurodivergent parents’ advocacy work. This warm, insightful and hilarious episode is a must listen for anyone navigating parenting through the lens of their own neurodivergency.

CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS (ESTIMATED)

00:01:26 - Meet the guest: Lisa Lloyd

00:06:07 - Topic of the week: parenting neurodivergent kids as a neurodivergent parent

00:13:24 - A shared neurotype and a closer bond with the kids

00:15:48 - Sensory sensitivity and touch aversion

00:21:22 - Coping with changes of plan

00:27:13 - Masking, social struggles and finding your tribe

00:35:10 - Executive function and the never-ending admin

00:40:36 - Rejection sensitivity

00:47:13 - Navigating overwhelm and meltdowns together

00:58:39 - The Positives: the upsides of neurodivergent parenting

01:07:09 - Neurodiversity Champions

01:13:31 - Tiny Epic Wins

01:18:08 - What The Flip Moments

LINKS TO STUFF WE MENTION IN THIS EPISODE

Neuroshambles mailing list sign-up (with free PDF of What the Flip moments) - https://preview.mailerlite.io/forms/2414072/190019322933937234/share

Unmasking Mum by Lisa Lloyd - https://amzn.eu/d/0gbnKiwm

Lisa Lloyd (ASD with a G&T) on the socials:

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/asd_with_a_g_and_t/

TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@asd.with.a.g.and.t

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/ASDwithGandT

Includes Us Too - https://includesustoo.org.uk/

Spinning World of Autism (Laura Brown) - https://www.spinningworldofautism.com/

Speak Up for Autism petition - https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/764248

PDA Society - https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/

CONTACT NEUROSHAMBLES

🌐 Website: www.neuroshambles.com

📧 Email: [email protected]

📸 Instagram: @neuroshambles

🎵 TikTok: @neuroshamblespod

📘 Facebook: Neuroshambles

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CREDITS

🎧 Sound recording by CRT Audiotech: https://www.instagram.com/crtaudiotech/

🎥 Video recording by Brown Bear Studios, Brighton: https://brownbearstudios.co.uk/

🎶 Theme music by Skilsel on Pixabay: pixabay.com

Mark welcomes back a Neuroshambles favourite Lisa Galley, for a deep dive into one of the topics every family raising neurodivergent kids will recognise: meltdowns. As an autism family consultant and mum to three of her own, fully grown neurodivergent humans, Lisa brings a wealth of lived experience to help unpick what is really going on in a child's brain and body when their nervous system tips beyond its limits.

Mark and Lisa explore the three main contributing factors to meltdowns, before working through the four main survival responses that PDA and other neurodivergent kids can show when overwhelmed: fight, flight, freeze and fawn. They also tackle one of the most frustrating bugbears for parents of autistic, ADHD and PDA kids - the assumption that a meltdown is simply a tantrum. They dissect exactly why the two are worlds apart and why treating one like the other often makes things worse.

They share honest, sometimes hair-raising stories from their own households, from the most extreme of flight responses to an epic meltdown triggered by an Easter egg hunt and they offer a genuinely practical rundown of what can help before, during and after a meltdown happens. It's the kind of grounded, funny, non-judgemental chat about parenting neurodivergent kids that Neuroshambles listeners are looking - whether they're seeking autistic parenting advice for the first time or simply want to feel a little less alone in the chaos.

CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS (ESTIMATED)

00:01:10 - Meet the guest: Lisa Galley returns

LINKS TO STUFF WE MENTION IN THIS EPISODE

Parenting Your Autistic Child: Permission to Do It Differently, by Lisa Galley - https://amzn.eu/d/09LMvRVR

Lisa Galley's website - https://lisagalley.com

Lisa Galley's free Autism Parenting Guide to Meltdowns (plus bonus meltdown tracker) - https://learn.lisagalley.com/meltdownsguide

Different Minds: How We Can Help Our Autistic School Children Thrive, by Pete Wharmby - https://amzn.eu/d/0cE2Sjcq

Neuroshambles mailing list sign-up (with free PDF of What the Flip moments) - https://preview.mailerlite.io/forms/2414072/190019322933937234/share

📣 CONTACT US

🌐 Website: www.neuroshambles.com

📧 Email: [email protected]

📸 Instagram: @neuroshambles

🎵 TikTok: @neuroshamblespod

📘 Facebook: Neuroshambles

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The issue of how to navigate sleep with our neurodivergent kids is one of the most requested topics on Neuroshambles, so Mark brought in someone who actually knows what she's talking about. This episode tackles the question that haunts pretty much every household raising neurodivergent kids: how do you get them to sleep, keep them asleep, and stop them waking up at some ungodly hour demanding an apple?

Mark is joined by Michelle Cyril, a children's nurse and fully qualified paediatric sleep consultant who specialises in supporting families of autistic, ADHD and PDA kids. She's also a parent of neurodivergent twins herself, so this isn't advice from someone lecturing from a textbook - it's advice from someone who's been on the sharp end of three-hour bedtime battles too.

Mark and Michelle break bedtime down into its component parts of chaos: the bedtime routine itself, actually getting to sleep, staying asleep through the night, and waking up - wether that’s ludicrously early, or begrudgingly late. They cover why traditional sleep advice is largely useless for neurodivergent kids, how PDA turns bedtime into a demand minefield, and dive into the knotty issue of melatonin. Anyone wondering whether melatonin is safe, why GPs are so reluctant to prescribe it, or why their kid can't seem to switch their brain off at night will find answers here.

Whether it's a PDA profile, an ADHD brain that won't switch off, or a kid who just runs unnervingly hot in bed, there's something in this episode for most Neuroshamblers.

CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS (Estimated)

00:01:48 - Meet the Guest: Michelle Cyril

LINKS TO STUFF WE MENTION IN THIS EPISODE

Neuroshambles mailing list sign-up (with free PDF of What the Flip moments) - https://preview.mailerlite.io/forms/2414072/190019322933937234/share

Michelle Cyril, Family Sleep Specialist - https://familysleepspecialist.co.uk/

Busy Brains at Bedtime (Michelle's free download) - https://familysleepspecialist.co.uk/busy-brains-guide/

Greeking Out (National Geographic podcast) - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/podcasts/greeking-out/

Michael Gradisar - https://winksleep.online/about-michael-gradisar

Confusional Arousals - https://www.sleepfoundation.org/parasomnias/confusional-arousal

Neuro Embrace, Madeleine Woolgar - https://www.neuro-embrace.com

ARFID Life UK - https://www.facebook.com/p/ARFID-Life-UK-61569140673395/

📣 CONTACT US

🌐 Website: www.neuroshambles.com

📧 Email: [email protected]

📸 Instagram: @neuroshambles

🎵 TikTok: @neuroshamblespod

📘 Facebook: Neuroshambles

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Part two of our deep dive into EBSA for neurodivergent children is essential listening for anyone navigating the school avoidance minefield as a parent or carer of a neurodivergent child - whether they are autistic, ADHD, PDA profile, or any combination of the above.

Heidi Mavir returns to offer her advice as someone who has lived every corner of this experience - not only in her own life, but also through her advocacy work with thousands of families affected by barriers to attendance. In this episode, we dig into the real-world impact - the emotional, financial and logistical strain it places on families.

We also look at practical things parents can actually do if their child is experiencing barriers to attendance - from how absences should be coded at school, to what the Children's Wellbeing Bill means for home education rights, to when a part-time timetable might help and when it's just a sticking plaster.

If you're wrestling with EBSA daily and you’re looking for advice that's rooted in lived experience, this is the episode for you.

CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS (ESTIMATED)

00:01:28 - Meet The Guest

LINKS TO STUFF WE MENTION IN THIS EPISODE

Neuroshambles mailing list sign-up (with free PDF of all What the Flip moments from all 59 episodes) - https://preview.mailerlite.io/forms/2414072/190019322933937234/share

Your Child Is Not Broken book, Heidi Mavir - https://www.heidimavir.com/i-wrote-a-book

Your Child Is Not Broken free Facebook community - https://www.facebook.com/groups/eotasmatters

Heidi Mavir: The Marble run - https://www.heidimavir.com/the-marble-run

Children’s Wellbeing and Schools Act - https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3909

Section 19 of Children and Families Act - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2014/6/section/19

EOTAS, EOTIS, EOTISC - https://www.ipsea.org.uk/home-education-and-education-otherwise

Not Fine in School - https://www.notfineinschool.co.uk

Define Fine - https://www.definefine.org.uk/

SEND Advocacy Limited (Alice) - https://www.sendadvocacy.com/

Audhdacious Humans - https://www.audhdacious.com/

Make and Create Club - https://www.audhdacious.com/make-and-create/club/

Eliza Fricker and "Can't Not Won't" - https://amzn.eu/d/0bMMrrwa

📣 CONTACT NEUROSHAMBLES

🌐 Website: www.neuroshambles.com

📧 Email: [email protected]

📸 Instagram: @neuroshambles

🎵 TikTok: @neuroshamblespod

📘 Facebook: Neuroshambles

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If you are a parent or carer of a neurodivergent child, the chances are that school attendance has been a topic that has kept you awake at night. Whether you know it as school refusal, emotionally based school avoidance, or one of a dozen other terms, it is one of the most stressful and isolating things a family can go through.

As a neurodivergent parenting podcast, Neuroshambles has been asked about this topic more than almost any other, so this week’s guest is one of the best in the business. Heidi Mavir is a best-selling author, public speaker, late-identified autistic and ADHD adult, and one of the most knowledgeable and tireless advocates for SEND families in the UK. Her own journey with her son Theo, who went from full school attendance to none at all in the space of a few months at the age of fourteen, gives her both the lived experience and the hard-won expertise to talk about this topic like very few others can.

This is Part 1 of a two-part episode, so here we focus on what barriers to attendance actually looks like in neurodivergent children and young people - from the terminology chaos to the sensory nightmare of school environments, the morning meltdowns, the masking, the after-school explosions, the physical symptoms, and ultimately what can happen when it all builds up into burnout. Part 2 will focus on the family impact and what you can actually do about it.

If you are a parent trying to make sense of what is happening with your child and school, this one is for you.

CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS (ESTIMATED)

00:01:37 - Meet the Guest - Heidi Mavir

00:05:08 - What is EBSA? Unpacking the Terminology

00:19:01 - Why School is a Sensory and Emotional Minefield

00:30:40 - The PDA Dimension - Demand Avoidance in School

00:35:27 - Early Signs of Barriers to Attendance

00:42:00 - Fight, Flight, Freeze, Fawn and Flop - Polyvagal Theory

00:45:33 - After-School Meltdowns and the Masking Behind Them

00:52:19 - Physical Symptoms - When the Body Tells the Story

00:57:01 - What Changes Outside of School?

01:03:41 - How Barriers to Attendance Build Up Gradually Over Time

01:07:42 - Autistic Burnout - When It All Catches Up

01:17:22 - Neurodiversity Champions

01:20:13 - Tiny Epic Wins

01:23:04 - What the Flip?

LINKS TO STUFF WE MENTION IN THIS EPISODE

Your Child Is Not Broken by Heidi Mavir - https://www.heidimavir.com/i-wrote-a-book

EOTAS Matters - https://www.heidimavir.com/forfamilies

PDA Society: School Distress - https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/what-helps-guides/pda-and-emotionally-based-school-avoidance-ebsa/

Kieran Rose: School Induced Trauma - https://theautisticadvocate.com/school-refusal-or-school-induced-trauma-rethinking-ebsa-ebsna-and-the-harm-we-call-help/

Audhdacious Humans - https://www.audhdacious.com/

Polyvagal Theory - https://www.polyvagalinstitute.org/whatispolyvagaltheory

Scouts UK - https://www.scouts.org.uk/

Heidi Mavir/Rachel Filmer webinar on SEND Reform Proposals - https://eotasmatters.kartra.com/page/WhitePaperWebinar

Black SEN Mamas - https://blacksenmamas.com/

Rachel Filmer - https://www.instagram.com/sendra.uk/

Not Fine in School - https://www.notfineinschool.co.uk

Square Peg - https://www.teamsquarepeg.co.uk/

Define Fine - https://www.definefine.org.uk/

📣 CONTACT US

🌐 Website: www.neuroshambles.com

📧 Email: [email protected]

📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neuroshambles/

🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neuroshamblespod

📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Neuroshambles/

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This week we're back with part two of a candid, deep dive into screen time. Last time we covered all the good stuff - the regulation, the social connection, the sense of mastery. This time, we're braving the darker side of the coin.

Mark is joined again by Hannah, mum to nine-year-old Henry (autistic, ADHD, PDA profile) and six-year-old Thea (suspected neurotypical). Together they work through the thornier aspects of neurodivergent parenting and screen time - addiction, in-game spending, safeguarding and parental controls. They also take an honest look at crushing guilt and the shame that often lies underneath it, as well as how to handle transitions off screens without descending into full-scale conflict.

For anyone trying to navigate neurodivergency parenting without a rulebook, this episode won't give you all the answers, but it will make you feel considerably less alone.

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CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS (ESTIMATED)

00:01:10 - Meet the Guest

00:02:34 - This Week's Topic: Screen Time - The Difficult Bits

00:03:48 - Screen Addiction, ADHD and the Dopamine Loop

00:16:12 - Managing Screen Time: Swapping One Dopamine Hit for Another

00:21:57 - In-Game Spending, Roblox and Robux

00:29:16 - Safeguarding and Online Safety

00:34:10 - Parental Controls: A Full-Time Job

00:46:52 - Are Screens Putting Our Kids Off Other Kinds of Play?

00:50:39 - Using Screens as a Tool for Transitions and Outings

00:56:38 - Getting Them Off Screens: Transition Strategies That (Sometimes) Work

01:01:45 - Parental Guilt, Shame and Societal Judgement

01:12:46 - It's Not All Rubbish

01:15:12 - Neurodiversity Champions

01:21:43 - Tiny Epic Wins

01:25:48 - What the Flip Moments

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LINKS TO STUFF WE MENTION IN THIS EPISODE

Neuroshambles Live, Brighton (23rd July 2026) - www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/1988682312330/?discount=Neuroshamblers

Alternatively, search "Neuroshambles Live" on https://www.eventbrite.co.uk and use the access code “Neuroshamblers” for the discounted rate of £8 throughout May. After that, tickets go on general sale for £10.

Screen time: Part 1 episode - https://neuroshambles.com/episode/screen-time-part-1-the-benefits-for-neurodivergent-kids-hannah-woods

ADHD and dopamine - https://www.additudemag.com/brain-stimulation-and-adhd-cravings-dependency-and-regulation/

Roblox - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roblox

Grow a garden - https://growa-garden.io/

Apple parental controls - https://support.apple.com/en-gb/105121

Google parental controls - https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/15077835?hl=en

Microsoft parental controls - https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/microsoft-365/family-safety

Crunchyroll - https://www.crunchyroll.com/

Tech Smart Parenting book by Catherine Knibbs - https://amzn.eu/d/0iqIy0cv

Holidays Episode of Neuroshambles - https://neuroshambles.com/episode/holidays-dr-hildi-mitchell

Cards against humanity - https://amzn.eu/d/08Dn7YIt

Smartphone Free Childhood - https://www.smartphonefreechildhood.org/

Spectrum Squad Penarth - https://www.facebook.com/groups/2039735040102766/

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🌐 Website: www.neuroshambles.com

📧 Email: [email protected]

📸 Instagram: @neuroshambles

🎵 TikTok: @neuroshamblespod

📘 Facebook: Neuroshambles

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If you're a parent of a neurodivergent child and you've ever felt quietly judged for your approach to screen time, this episode of Neuroshambles is for you. Mark is joined by Hannah Woods - one of the founders of the Spectrum Squad, a neurodivergent youth group in Penarth, South Wales - to tackle one of the most requested topics the show has ever had: managing screen time with our neurodivergent kids.

This is part one of a two-part deep dive of a particularly knotty topic, and it's entirely focused on the positives of screen time. Because if you're navigating autism parenting, ADHD parenting, or PDA parenting, you'll know that screens aren't just a lazy shortcut - they can be a genuine lifeline. Whether it's helping your child regulate, learn and connect with peers, or just giving you ten minutes of respite to gather your energy, screen time is doing some heavy lifting in a lot of neurodivergent households.

This is an honest, relatable conversation about the gap between the parents we thought we'd be and the parents our kids actually need us to be. Part 2, covering the potential downsides of screen time, is coming in the next episode. But for now, let's hear the case for the defence.

Chapter Timestamps

00:00 - Introduction and Neuroshambles Live Announcement

02:56 - Meet the Guest: Hannah Woods

08:10 - Topic Introduction: Screen Time with Neurodivergent Kids

10:00 - How We Thought We'd Parent Around Screens (Before We Met Our Kids)

14:29 - The Stigma Around Screen Time

15:23 - Screen Time Limits, NHS Guidance and Why It Doesn't Apply to Our Kids

18:17 - Dr Naomi Fisher: It's Not the Screen, It's What's Behind It

21:59 - Screens for Regulation - Meltdowns, Overwhelm and India's Wardrobe Nook

29:29 - Special Interests, Hyperfocus and Letting Them Go Deep

39:17 - Online Connection, Belonging and the Social Value of Multiplayer Gaming

42:39 - Building Friendships Through Minecraft and Shared Play

50:04 - Sharing Content as a Love Language (YouTube Clips Count)

55:16 - Watching Online as a Gateway to Special Interests

57:40 - Screens as a Learning Tool - Laptops, Writing and Demand Avoidance

01:01:08 - Reading Apps and How They Changed Everything

01:03:20 - Self-Esteem, Gaming and Finding Your Thing

01:04:53 - Screens as a Social Bridge

01:07:44 - From 3D Printing to School Fair Entrepreneur

01:09:52 - The Parental Sanity Argument (Yes, It Counts)

01:13:16 - Screens for Sleep and Winding Down

01:15:20 - Neurodiversity Champions

01:18:22 - Tiny Epic Wins

01:22:09 - What the Flip Moments

Links to Stuff We Mention in This Episode

Neuroshambles Live, Brighton (23rd July 2026) - www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/1988682312330/?discount=Neuroshamblers

Alternatively, search "Neuroshambles Live" on https://www.eventbrite.co.uk and use the access code “Neuroshamblers” for the discounted rate of £8 throughout May. After that, tickets go on general sale for £10.

The Family Experience of PDA by Eliza Fricker - https://amzn.eu/d/02qGPcjD

Dr Naomi Fisher article on screens - https://naomifisher.co.uk/tags/screens/

Bluey - https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/m000vbrk/bluey

Gravity Falls - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_Falls

How To Break Up With Your Phone - https://amzn.eu/d/04PSfLq9

Roblox - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roblox

JusTalk Kids - https://kids.justalk.com/

MindJam - https://mindjam.org.uk/

Super Mario Odyssey - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Odyssey

Audible storybooks - https://www.audible.co.uk/

Calm app - https://www.calm.com/

Greeking Out (National Geographic podcast) - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/podcasts/greeking-out/

Have Fun, Get Fit (South Wales) - https://www.facebook.com/HaveFunGetFitRossParsons/

Neurospicy Wings (South Wales) - https://www.neurospicywings.co.uk/

📣 CONTACT US

🌐 Website: www.neuroshambles.com

📧 Email: [email protected]

📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neuroshambles/

🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neuroshamblespod

📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Neuroshambles

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🎶 Theme music by Skilsel on Pixabay: https://pixabay.com

If you've ever found yourself having to outline the entire day's schedule before you've even had your first coffee, or negotiating bath time as a sacred non-negotiable human right, this episode might just be the one you didn't know you needed. Mark is joined by the brilliant Jo Matthews for a deep dive into what it really means to be your child's safe person.

Whether your neuroshambolic family is shaped by autism, ADHD or PDA, so many of us know the exhausting, relentless, sometimes claustrophobic experience of being the one person our child needs above all others. It's a privilege and it's hard work, but it's almost never talked about with the honesty it deserves on a neurodivergent parenting podcast.

In a Neuroshambles first, this episode also features a second guest - Dotty Matthews, Jo's 19-year-old autistic daughter - who joins Mark for a candid, funny and genuinely moving conversation about what it felt like to be that child. From the early days of demanding apple juice to command her mum's attention, through to slowly learning to find safety in other people, Dotty's perspective is the kind of lived experience that makes this show worth your time.

There's also a listener email from Lydia, whose 13-year-old daughter's intense attachment prompted this whole conversation - and both Jo and Dotty have something genuinely useful to say in response. Autistic parenting advice doesn't get much more grounded in lived experience than this.

CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS (ESTIMATED)

00:01:08 - Meet the Guest: Jo Matthews

00:03:40 - This Week's Topic: Being Your Child's Safe Person

00:04:22 - Lydia's Listener Email

00:07:06 - Dotty's Early Attachment (and the Gee Story)

00:10:25 - Transitional Objects and Starting School

00:18:58 - Co-regulation: Being Your Child's Emotional Anchor

00:25:54 - Scaffolding the Day: Structure and Predictability

00:30:54 - Being Their Executive Function

00:37:45 - Advocating for Your Child

00:43:41 - Being a Physical Safe Space (Including Co-sleeping)

00:48:05 - Being an Emotional Outlet

00:56:34 - The Guilt and Exhaustion of Being a Safe Person

01:03:12 - Attachment Theory and Building Independence

01:06:58 - When Only One Parent is the Safe Person

01:14:17 - Meet the Second Guest: Dotty Matthews

01:38:51 - It's Not All Rubbish

01:41:07 - Neurodiversity Champions

01:43:46 - Tiny Epic Wins

01:47:04 - What the Flip Moments

LINKS TO STUFF WE MENTION IN THIS EPISODE

Attachment Theory (John Bowlby) - https://www.simplypsychology.org/bowlby.html

The Loxdale Centre, Portslade - https://www.loxdale.com/

mASCot - https://www.asc-mascot.com/

Mark's talk: "How Dads Can Show Up Better For Our Neurodivergent Kids" - https://neuroshambles.com/page-gazc-3dk8-ywa8-dnly

Raising SEND kids: The Dad's Perspective (with Terry Lloyd) - https://neuroshambles.com/episode/raising-send-kids-the-dads-perspective-terry-lloyd

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