What happens when two savage sales leaders sit down and talk about the real stuff no one else wants to?

In this episode, Nick sits down with Evan Macklin—CEO of Andy Elliott’s sales empire and an 8-figure leader whose journey started on the Nissan sales floor. Together, they unpack the dark side of success: the pressure, the pain, the identity crisis—and how owning your truth is the real path to power.

From topping the charts in car sales with his twin brother to leading one of the most intense sales organizations in the world, Evan shares how pain became his fuel, and why integrity, honesty, and emotional grit are what actually drive greatness.

If you're a leader who’s felt alone in your struggle… this one’s for you.
Because what you hide holds you back—and what you own sets you free.