Sales and dating may seem like two different worlds, but they share the same foundation: trust, alignment, and emotional intelligence. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner, I sit down with Veronika Szumska a high-ticket sales professional, dating and mindset coach, and creator of a fast-growing movement around traditional values. Veronika shares how mastering energy, self-worth, and soft power has helped her close multi-million-dollar real estate deals and guide high-performing men and women toward more fulfilling relationships.

We dive into why embracing femininity is actually a superpower in sales, how tonality builds trust faster than any script, and what languages, mindset shifts, and emotional clarity can do for your career. If you’ve ever struggled with confidence, building urgency, or balancing ambition with genuine connection, this conversation will give you the exact insights you need to start showing up with more certainty, alignment, and influence in both business and life.

Chapters (00:00) Introduction (00:53) Veronika’s journey into high-ticket sales at 21 (02:25) The power of speaking multiple languages in sales (07:54) Femininity as a sales superpower (10:27) Jeremy on mastering the five core tonalities (15:03) How trust, self-worth, and attraction connect sales & dating (18:23) Traditional values, culture shock & starting a movement (23:15) Balancing career ambition with feminine energy (26:21) Self-worth as the foundation for sales success (31:06) Building true confidence & identity in dating and sales (33:33) Establishing authority with high-net-worth clients (36:38) Selling lifestyle and results  not just products (42:08) Veronica’s next big project & where to follow her

💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755

➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org

📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more

📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112

🔥 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/

✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

✅ Connect with Veronika Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/veronikaxplica

If you want to close more sales without using pushy tactics, this conversation with my friend Eli Wilde will show you exactly how to do it. Eli was Tony Robbins’ top salesperson, generating tens of millions in revenue, and now coaches top entrepreneurs, salespeople, and speakers on building influence that buyers trust. We cover the “Trust Trinity” framework, how to shift a prospect’s identity so objections disappear before they surface, and the tonality skills that keep people engaged. Whether you’re selling one-to-one, from stage, or through content, you’ll walk away knowing how to create real urgency and make it easy for prospects to say yes with confidence.

Chapters

(00:00) Introduction & Eli’s Background with Tony Robbins

(04:12) Why Trust is the Real Currency in Sales

(10:45) The “Trust Trinity” Framework for Influence

(17:02) Identity Shifts That Remove Objections Before They Arise

(24:18) Tonality & Presence: How to Keep Prospects Engaged

(30:56) Selling from Stage vs. One-to-One Conversations

(39:20) Building Urgency Without Pressure

(46:05) Final Takeaways & How to Apply These Skills Today

💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755

➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org

📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more

📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112

🔥 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup

Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/

✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner  

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

✅ Connect with Eli Wilde

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@eliwilde858

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eliwilde_sales

In this episode, I sit down with Paul Hutchinson —entrepreneur, investor, undercover operative, and executive producer of Sound of Freedom — to uncover the real stories behind the film and the mindset shift that led him from building a $20B fund to rescuing over 7,000 trafficked children across the globe.

This isn’t just a conversation about child trafficking. It’s about transformation; how the skills of persuasion, tonality, and emotional intelligence can be used not just to sell, but to liberate. Paul reveals how his ability to influence in high-stakes negotiations saved lives and how changing the man in the mirror is what really changes the world.

If you're a sales professional, entrepreneur, or leader who wants to do more with your influence than just close deals, this episode will challenge and inspire you on a whole new level.

Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction

(03:14) Why a Billionaire Risks His Life to Save Kids

(08:25) The Real Story Behind Sound of Freedom

(14:31) The Shocking Truth About Human Traffickers

(19:19) How Persuasion Saved Dozens of Lives

(26:05) The Negotiation That Led to 124 Children Being Rescued

(33:08) The Sound of Freedom: What Paul Heard That Changed Everything

(37:19) From Ego to Healing: The Inner Work Behind the Mission

(42:18) Plant Medicine, God, and Rebuilding the Man in the Mirror

(47:48) The Power of Influence: Persuasion Beyond Sales

(51:02) Transparency, Trust, and What Most Salespeople Get Wrong

(54:05) Where to Find the Book and Support the Mission

Get The Sound of Freedom Book: ⁠https://soundoffreedombook.com⁠

Connect With Paul Hutchinson

Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/liberating.humanity⁠

YouTube: ⁨⁠https://youtube.com/@Liberatinghumanity⁩ ⁠

💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755

➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠

📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: ⁠https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more⁠

📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠

🔥 More Free Resources 

Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup⁠

Book a Clarity Call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠

✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner

YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMinerPodcast⁠

Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠

LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠

Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

If you want to stop chasing prospects and start closing with authority, this episode is your blueprint. I sat down with Armand Farrokh, founder of 30 Minutes to President’s Club the #1 sales podcast in the world and we broke down how top 1% sellers diagnose deeper problems, dismantle objections with tone (not pressure), and use identity reframes that make prospects sell themselves. 

Armand didn’t just grow revenue from $0 to $13M at Pave he engineered it with precision-level sales skills most reps never learn. This episode goes beyond surface-level tactics to show you how to disarm resistance, create urgency, and get buyers to fight for your solution. Watch this and you’ll understand why most salespeople are stuck in the shallow end and how to get out fast.

Chapters (00:00) Introduction (03:38) Building the Gap: Roleplay with Live Audiences (04:42) How to Clarify Objections Without Triggering Defensiveness (08:25) Reframing Price Objections with Results-Based Thinking (12:12) Why You Should Push Prospects Away (at First) (17:00) The Power of Tone to Trigger Curiosity and Doubt (20:14) Turning Surface-Level Problems Into Emotional Stories (25:38) Magic Moment Questions That Unlock Real Pain (30:03) The 4 Types of Salespeople (Which One Are You?) (33:34) Identity Framing: Making Prospects Justify the Sale (42:17) Why Prospects Buy From You—Even If You're More Expensive

💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755

➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org

📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more

📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112

🔥 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/

✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMinerPodcast   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

✅ Connect with Armand Farrokh Website: https://www.30mpc.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/30minutestopresidentsclub/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@30mpc Twitter: https://x.com/armandfarrokh LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/armand-farrokh/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@30MPC

Most sales pros spend so much time trying to make money, they forget to learn what to do with it. In this episode, I’m joined Ryan Pineda, a former pro athlete turned real estate mogul. He’s flipped over 700 homes, built multiple seven and eight figure companies, and amassed over 2 million followers across all platforms by teaching others what he calls The Wealthy Way.

We talk about how to build real wealth (not just income), how to prioritize what can’t be delegated... faith, family, fitness... and why chasing shiny objects is the fastest way to stay broke. Whether you’re making $50K or $500K a year, this episode will challenge how you think about success.

Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction

(01:24) From pro baseball to entrepreneur mindset  

(10:53) Flipping couches: Ryan's first business breakthrough  

(15:27) Why mentorship beats self-education  

(18:32) Building a business structure and sales culture  

(31:17) The mindset you need to scale big  

(34:19) Why young people should risk it all  

(37:01) How to invest your time and money wisely  

(39:42) What to do if you're older and feel stuck  

(42:10) Top 3 mistakes entrepreneurs make  

(47:00) Why consistency beats shiny object syndrome  

💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755

➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠

📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: ⁠https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more⁠

📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠

🔥 More Free Resources 

Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup⁠

Book a Clarity Call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠

✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner

YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner  ⁠

Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠

LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠

Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠

✅ Connect with Ryan Pineda

YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@ryanpineda⁠ 

Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/ryanpineda⁠

Website: ⁠https://ryanpineda.com⁠

Sales in 2025 looks different and Shelby Sapp says women are leading the way... In this episode, I sit down with Shelby, founder of She Sells, a remote sales academy that’s helping women break into high-ticket sales and outperform the traditional “bro” style of closing.

Her claim? Women are better at building trust, reading emotion, and disarming objections giving them a serious edge in today's buyer-driven market.

Now, do I agree? That’s up to you to decide. But what you’ll hear in this conversation will challenge the way you think about how sales actually works regardless of gender.

We cover how to rewrite outdated sales scripts, use emotional tonality to close without pressure, avoid objections altogether with pre-framing, and what it takes to interview and land top-tier sales roles in 2025. Whether you're a sales rep, coach, closer, or business owner, this is one to study.

Chapters

(00:00) Introduction

(02:47) Shelby’s Background & Why She Rewrote the Sales Script

(06:44) What It’s Like Being the Only Woman in the Room

(11:22) How She Invented a New D2D Pitch (and Crushed It)

(16:49) From Door-to-Door to Remote High-Ticket Sales

(23:20) Why Gap Selling Works (and How to Use It)

(29:34) How to Disarm Prospects (Even Alpha Males)

(34:53) Objection Prevention: Pre-Framing That Works

(41:24) How to Interview Like a Closer

(47:12) Masculine vs Feminine Energy in Sales

💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755

➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠

📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: h⁠ttps://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more⁠

📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠

🔥 More Free Resources

Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup⁠

Book a Clarity Call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠

✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner

YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMinerPodcast ⁠

Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠

LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠

Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠

✅ Connect with Shelby Sapp

Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/shelby.sapp⁠

TikTok: ⁠https://www.tikok.com/@diaryofadoortodoorsaleswoman⁠

You want to close more deals, lead better, and scale faster? Then you need to hear the answers in this private Q&A. After the live podcast, Brad Lea and I stuck around to go deeper with a small group of entrepreneurs. We covered how to influence belief shifts, earn trust with high-level players, stay grounded with the right non-negotiables, and lock in on the path to mastery especially when you’re just starting out or stuck. No fluff. Just real strategy from two people who’ve been in the trenches.

Chapters

(00:00) How do you shift someone's identity to help them believe in transformation?

(02:51) How do you build relationships with people outside your network without being transactional?

(04:15) What are your personal and business non-negotiables?

(05:18) Should you double down on your strengths or change your behavior?

(06:43) How do you choose the one thing to master and go all in?

Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-637-2944

The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org

Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more

Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112

More Free Resources

Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup

Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/

Connect with Me

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

Connect with Brad Lea

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@THEREALBRADLEA  

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealbradlea

Brad Lea built LightSpeed VT into one of the most-used training platforms in the world, powering teams for Tony Robbins, Grant Cardone, and more. In this conversation with Jeremy Miner, he opens up about the moments that shaped him... from a near-death experience with his daughter to the painful leadership lessons that held him back for years.

They get into scaling mistakes, personal branding myths, and why most people posting online will never convert followers into customers. If you're building a business, managing a team, or trying to get your message to land, this episode will hit.

Chapters (00:00) What luck really means in business (02:00) Why Brad built his brand around rhinos (04:46) The day Brad’s daughter nearly drowned (11:05) How that moment shifted his mindset (12:36) The hardest part of scaling LightSpeed VT (17:03) Real training vs exposure (and why most fail) (24:53) Why most content doesn’t convert (32:00) Like vs trust: what actually drives sales (41:16) How to build trust with your audience (47:06) The 80/20 rule of monetizable content (54:14) Identity, self-worth, and what kills momentum (01:01:33) The power of emotional energy in leadership (01:11:02) Mindset, habits, and the real formula for growth

💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755

➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org

📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more

📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112

🔥 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/

✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMinerPodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

✅ Connect with Brad Lea YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@therealbradlea   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealbradlea

Tim Storey has helped more celebrities make a comeback than anyone in the game... from Robert Downey Jr. and Charlie Sheen to top-tier NFL stars. But what makes him different isn’t just who he works with, It’s how he gets results. Known as the Original Comeback Coach, Tim blends deep mindset work with real strategy to help people wake up, take inventory, and rewrite their story. If you’ve ever felt stuck in your sales, business, or life  and you’re ready for a comeback of your own, this one’s for you.

This episode isn’t about motivation. It’s about transformation. Tim walks you through what really causes top performers to fall off track… and exactly how they come back stronger. You’ll learn how to move from “just getting by” to becoming fully awake, how to reframe criticism as a tool for growth, and how to shift into the identity that matches your highest potential. Whether you’re stuck in a plateau or chasing your next level, this is about becoming the kind of person the world can’t ignore. The one who actually follows through.

Chapters (00:00) Introduction (02:22) How Criticism Builds Stronger Leaders (04:30) Personal Development vs. Natural Talent (06:46) Identity, Perception & Expectations (12:06) Where Limiting Beliefs Come From (18:02) Born Into Pain: Tim’s Origin Story (24:49) Habits That Make You Hard to Beat (33:17) The Difference Between a Good Idea and a God Idea (40:48) The Miracle Mentality (44:01) The 3-Step Process: Wake Up, Inventory, Partner Up (49:13) Why It’s Not What You Say — It’s How You Say It

Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-637-2944

✅ Connect with Tim Storey Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/timstoreyofficial Get Tim's book on Amazon: https://a.co/d/2ovqphN Learn more about his programs at https://www.timstorey.com Worldshaker Society, One-on-One Coaching, Crisis Mastermind (Beverly Hills)

✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org

📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more

📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112

🔥 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/

If you lead a sales team, run a business, or sell anything, this episode will hit different. Nick Nascimento isn’t a guru. He’s a killer. His company, Sparta Solar, did $35 million in its first year. His secret? Speed. Clarity. Conviction. And a level of empathy that most salespeople completely miss.

In this conversation, we go deep, into disarming door approaches, identity-based recruiting, real-time leadership, and the mindset it takes to dominate in today’s sales world. This isn’t about gimmicks. It’s about building salespeople who actually believe in what they sell and getting paid because of it.

Chapters (00:00) Introduction (04:01) Why Emotional Connection Beats “Gift of Gab” (07:10) Disarming Prospects with Pattern Interrupts (12:16) Staying Sold When Rejection Hits (17:22) The Sparta Method: Speed of Sale, Install, Pay (23:01) Can AI Replace Salespeople? (25:21) Hunger, Discipline, and the Identity of a Closer (31:14) How to Recruit Killers (Not Just Talent) (39:04) Unlocking Your True “Why” (42:05) Time Blocking, Personal Growth & Overcoming Demons (48:00) Scaling Smart: Systems That Actually Work (51:02) Vulnerability over Macho Leadership 

💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-637-2944

➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org

📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more

📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112

🔥 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/

✅ Connect with Nick Nascimento: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nicknsales YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@nicknsales Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2105860

✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52