Marina Lacerda returns to finish her story — and this time, she goes deeper.

In this second conversation, Neil and Marina explore the psychological grip Jeffrey Epstein held over his victims, the chilling way he wielded power and control and how Marina's childhood trauma shaped her ability to survive what others couldn't fully comprehend.

She opens up about the abusive marriage she stayed in for years, the moment she finally broke her silence in Washington and the healing that only began once she found the courage to walk away from everything that had been holding her down.

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