Old Men, New Money®: Agentics, Tokenization & Blockchain

Old Men, New Money®: Agentics, Tokenization & Blockchain

By Douglas Borthwick, Ali Davoudi & Phil LarmonBusinessEducationInvestingCourses
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Old Men, New Money®: Agentics, Tokenization & Blockchain episodes

  • Episode 14: Tokenized Treasuries: Blackrock's BUIDL and Beyond

    Success in Asset Tokenization: Why Treasuries Outshine Real Estate

    In this episode of 'Old Men New Money,' Ali Davoudi explores the robust success of tokenized treasuries compared to the struggling attempts in real estate tokenization. He highlights the simplicity, liquidity, and regulatory clarity that make treasuries an ideal candidate for tokenization. By reviewing major players like BlackRock and Franklin Templeton, Davoudi explains the benefits, business models, and future growth of tokenized treasuries within the financial ecosystem. He also addresses key risks and provides practical advice for potential investors, emphasizing the lessons learned and future potential in tokenizing other asset classes.

    00:00 Introduction to Tokenized Treasuries

    00:51 What Are Tokenized Treasuries?

    01:59 Why Tokenized Treasuries Succeed

    03:32 Key Players in Tokenized Treasuries

    05:13 Use Cases for Tokenized Treasuries

    06:55 Economics for Asset Managers

    09:20 Risks and Considerations

    10:41 Personal Take and Future Predictions

    13:06 Lessons for Other Asset Classes

    16:21 Closing Thoughts and Next Episodes



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    18 min
  • Episode 13: Real Estate Tokenization: Lessons Learned and Future Directions

    The Truth About Real Estate Tokenization: Why It Hasn't Worked and What Needs to Change

    In this episode of Old Men New Money, Ali Davoudi introduces the audience to module four of their educational series on digital securities, focusing on real world asset tokenization, specifically real estate. Ali explains why real estate tokenization, despite its exciting pitch of liquidity and fractional ownership, has largely failed due to regulatory complexities, liquidity illusions, and unclear value propositions. He offers insights into current approaches and suggests practical changes that could make real estate tokenization viable, such as focusing on tokenizing real estate funds or REITs and being honest about liquidity. Ali also shares lessons applicable to other asset classes and previews upcoming episodes covering tokenized treasuries, public equity, and private equity.

    00:00 Introduction to Module Four: Real World Asset Tokenization

    00:56 The Hype and Promise of Real Estate Tokenization

    02:09 Why Real Estate Tokenization Has Failed

    04:13 Structural Challenges in Real Estate Tokenization

    05:57 Examples of Failed Tokenization Projects

    07:52 What Needs to Change for Real Estate Tokenization to Succeed

    09:49 Potential Models for Successful Tokenization

    14:17 Lessons for Tokenizing Other Asset Classes

    15:32 Investor Advice and Looking Ahead

    18:08 Conclusion and Future Topics



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    20 min
  • Episode 12: Treasury Companies: Risks You Need to Understand

    Understanding the Risks of Investing in Treasury Companies

    In the latest episode of Old Men New Money, Douglas Borthwick delves into the various risks associated with investing in corporate treasury companies that are heavily involved in crypto assets. The episode covers seven major risk categories including asset price risk, NAV premium compression, dilution, debt leverage, regulatory issues, key person risk, and execution risk. Borthwick emphasizes the importance of understanding and managing these risks, especially in volatile market conditions, and provides guidance on position sizing, monitoring metrics, and establishing clear exit rules. He also cautions against treating these investments as conservative or core holdings, recommending them only for those with high risk tolerance and speculative capital.

    00:00 Introduction to Corporate Treasury Strategies

    00:45 Understanding Major Risk Categories

    02:37 Asset Price Risk Explained

    04:14 NAV Premium Compression

    05:46 Dilution Risks

    06:56 Debt and Leverage Risks

    08:14 Regulatory and Legal Risks

    09:36 Key Person Risk

    10:46 Execution Risk

    12:20 Competition and Technological Disruption

    15:23 Managing Risks and Position Sizing

    16:30 Who Should and Shouldn't Invest

    18:09 Final Thoughts and Next Module Preview



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    21 min
  • Episode 11: Sol Strategies: The Infrastructure Revenue Model

    Understanding SOL Strategies: The Future of Treasury Companies

    In this episode of 'Old Men New Money,' Douglas Borthwick explores SOL Strategies (ticker: STKE), a pioneering Solana Treasury company that goes beyond simple asset accumulation. Unlike other treasury companies, SOL Strategies also operates validator infrastructure, earning fees from institutional clients and building a recurring revenue business. They manage over 3.6 million SOL and provide staking services for major institutions like ARC Invest and VanEck. The episode delves into their revenue streams, including staking yield, validator fees, and purchasing locked SOL at a 15% discount from the Solana Foundation. Borthwick also discusses why Solana's high throughput and low-cost blockchain make it the ideal platform for institutional applications. The episode concludes with an analysis of risks and strategic advantages, positioning SOL Strategies as a model for the future of treasury companies.

    00:00 Introduction to SOL Strategies

    00:48 Overview of SOL Strategies

    06:28 Revenue Streams Explained

    08:19 Validator Economics and Operations

    12:02 Institutional Partnerships and Clients

    15:36 Risks and Challenges

    19:18 Conclusion and Next Steps



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    21 min
  • Episode 10: The Ethereum Treasury Model: BitMine's Bold Bet

    Bitmine's Ambitious Ethereum Accumulation Strategy Explained

    In this episode of Old Men New Money, host Douglas Borthwick delves into Bitmine's strategic pivot from Bitcoin mining to becoming the world's largest Ethereum treasury. Led by Tom Lee of Fundstrat, Bitmine aims to accumulate 5% of all Ethereum by leveraging capital markets and staking ETH for yield. This episode examines the differences between Bitcoin and Ethereum as assets, Bitmine's innovative immersion cooling technology, and the company's ambitious goal to position itself as a primary counterparty for institutional Ethereum transactions. The episode also highlights the risks involved and compares Bitmine's model to MicroStrategy's Bitcoin accumulation approach.

    00:00 Introduction to Corporate Treasury Strategies

    00:19 Bitmine's Bold Ethereum Strategy

    01:10 Tom Lee's Vision and Strategic Pivot

    01:43 Ethereum's Supercycle and Institutional Adoption

    03:14 Bitmine's Accumulation and Staking Strategy

    08:19 Liquidity and Market Position

    09:09 Valuation and Future Prospects

    13:37 Risks and Comparisons

    15:59 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview



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    19 min
  • Episode 9: Treasury Companies 101: The MicroStrategy Playbook

    Understanding Treasury Companies: The Strategy Playbook

    In this episode of Old Men New Money, Douglas Borthwick introduces module three of the educational series, focusing on treasury companies that use their corporate balance sheets to accumulate crypto assets, primarily Bitcoin. Borthwick explores the pioneering case of MicroStrategy, now called Strategy, which began converting its corporate treasury into Bitcoin in August 2020. The episode details Strategy’s financial engineering tactics, their Bitcoin yield metrics, and the associated risks. It also discusses the broader market implications, highlighting how over 70 public companies have adopted similar strategies. The episode concludes by emphasizing the critical role of Bitcoin’s price trajectory in the success of these treasury companies.

    00:00 Introduction to Module Three

    00:14 The Rise of Treasury Companies

    00:36 MicroStrategy's Bold Move

    01:16 Understanding the Strategy Playbook

    04:21 Financial Engineering and Bitcoin Yield

    09:32 Valuation and Market Dynamics

    17:42 Risks and Considerations

    22:53 Conclusion and Next Steps



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    25 min
  • Episode 8: Wallets, Private Keys, and Digital Custody

    Demystifying Digital Wallets and Key Management

    In this episode of Old Men New Money, Douglas Borthwick addresses the fears traditional investors have about digital securities, specifically focusing on private keys and digital wallets. He explains the importance of digital wallets, how custody works, and why security tokens offer safety advantages over pure cryptocurrencies. Douglas clarifies key concepts such as hot and cold wallets, seed phrases, and multisignature wallets, providing insights on the security and practicality of each option. He also discusses the regulatory landscape for digital asset custody, the role of custodians, and the future developments in the field. Key takeaways include understanding the critical nature of seed phrases, practicing wallet setup, and considering custodial versus non-custodial solutions.

    00:00 Introduction to Digital Securities

    00:51 Understanding Digital Wallets

    03:21 Hot Wallets vs Cold Wallets

    05:47 The Importance of Seed Phrases

    07:00 Custodial vs Non-Custodial Wallets

    09:31 Multisig Wallets for Institutional Custody

    10:25 Common Mistakes and Best Practices

    11:32 Popular Wallet Options

    12:45 Regulatory Perspective on Custody

    14:53 Future of Digital Custody

    16:04 Practical Steps for Secure Custody

    16:58 Conclusion and Next Steps



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    19 min
  • Episode 7: Stablecoins: The Bridge Between TradFi and Crypto

    Stablecoins: The Unsung Heroes of Digital Finance

    In this episode of 'Old Men New Money,' Douglas Borthwick delves into the significance of stablecoins—cryptocurrencies pegged to stable assets like the US dollar. With over $284 billion in circulation as of October 2025, stablecoins are revolutionizing financial transactions by providing instant, low-cost, 24/7 global transfers. Borthwick explains how stablecoins like USDT, USDC, PY Dollar, and DAI operate, their regulatory landscapes, and their crucial role in digital securities and decentralized finance (DeFi). He highlights the advantages of stablecoins over traditional banking methods, their growing adoption by major institutions like PayPal and Visa, and the potential risks and future of stablecoins in the financial ecosystem.

    00:00 Introduction to Stable Coins

    00:44 What Are Stable Coins?

    03:25 The Main Players in Stable Coins

    05:23 How Stable Coins Maintain Their Value

    06:56 Stable Coins in Digital Securities

    08:24 Regulation and Compliance

    09:47 Stable Coins in Decentralized Finance (DeFi)

    10:54 The Growing Adoption of Stable Coins

    13:36 Potential Risks and Challenges

    15:00 Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs)

    16:03 Practical Steps and Conclusion



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    19 min
  • Episode 6: Ethereum vs Solana: The Infrastructure Battle

    Ethereum vs. Solana: The Future of Tokenized Equity

    In this episode of 'Old Men New Money,' Douglas Borthwick discusses the major infrastructure decision in digital securities: Ethereum versus Solana. He highlights Galaxy Digital's choice to tokenize NASDAQ-listed shares on Solana, marking a significant shift from Ethereum due to Solana's high performance and lower costs. Borthwick argues that while Ethereum has institutional credibility and regulatory comfort, it falls short in terms of transaction speed and cost compared to Solana. He provides a detailed comparison of the two blockchains, emphasizing Solana's advantages for high-frequency trading and consumer-facing applications. Borthwick concludes that trends in developer migration and transaction volume favor Solana, marking it as the future leader in smart contract platforms. The episode also teases a future discussion on stablecoins.

    00:00 Introduction to the Debate: Ethereum vs. Solana

    00:12 Galaxy Digital's Groundbreaking Move

    00:58 Ethereum vs. Solana: A Performance Comparison

    02:26 The Regulatory Shift and Its Implications

    04:42 Ethereum's Struggles in High-Frequency Markets

    05:27 Why Solana is the Future for High Throughput Applications

    06:31 Developer Migration to Solana

    07:36 Solana's Real-World Usage and Efficiency

    09:48 The Layer Two Debate and Solana's Unified Approach

    10:40 Ethereum's Strengths and Limitations

    11:42 Solana's Security and Network Stability

    14:19 Future Predictions and Strategic Advice

    18:07 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview



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    19 min
  • Episode 5: Blockchain 101: What Wall Street Needs to Know

    Blockchain Basics: Understanding the Technology that Powers Digital Securities

    In this episode of Old Men New Money, Douglas Borthwick begins module two of the educational series on digital securities, focusing on blockchain technology. He explains what a blockchain is, its security features, and the differences between public and private blockchains. The episode covers the benefits of blockchain for finance, including instant settlement, fractional ownership, and programmable compliance. Borthwick emphasizes the importance of understanding the technology as major financial institutions implement blockchain strategies. He also discusses the economic models of various blockchains and highlights their adoption and risks. The concluding advice urges finance professionals to gain hands-on experience and follow thought leaders in the blockchain space.

    00:00 Introduction to Module Two: Blockchain Technology

    00:53 Understanding Blockchain Basics

    01:38 The Importance of Blockchain in Finance

    02:32 How Blockchain Settlement Works

    03:39 Detailed Explanation of Blockchain Mechanics

    06:16 Public vs. Private Blockchains

    07:47 Smart Contracts and Their Impact

    09:05 Blockchain's Advantages for Digital Securities

    10:46 Decentralization and Its Significance

    13:34 Performance and Scalability of Blockchains

    15:00 Consensus Mechanisms Explained

    16:11 Current Blockchain Adoption and Statistics

    17:15 Risks and Challenges of Blockchain

    18:22 Practical Steps to Engage with Blockchain

    19:31 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview



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    21 min

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