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Gabe Shapiro, crypto lawyer and co-founder of MetaLeX Labs, joins The Gwart Show to discuss DeFi regulation, tokenized securities, and the future of crypto under Trump or Kamala.
Follow our guest on Twitter: @lex_node
Chapters
00:00 Start
00:42 Gabe's background
01:21 MetaLeX & Borgs
04:16 Problems with DAOs
09:40 Foundations vs corporations in DAOs
15:03 Well run DAO examples
18:06 The risks of tokens + equity
21:53 Regulating conflicts of interest
24:12 What don't lawyers understand?
27:21 Liquid staking tokens
30:39 Legalities of MEV
36:25 Changing rules
43:25 Governance attack vs code exploit
48:19 People are the DAO attack vector
54:41 Legal risks of single sequencers
55:20 WTF is a tokenized security?
59:50 Bearer asset laws
1:02:46 Crypto corp structures
1:07:51 World Liberty Financial
1:09:54 Trump vs Harris crypto regulation
1:14:37 Regulation = good? umm..
1:18:50 Stablecoins
1:21:50 Does USDC now control ETH roadmap?
👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities.
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Gabe Shapiro, crypto lawyer and co-founder of MetaLeX Labs, joins The Gwart Show to discuss DeFi regulation, tokenized securities, and the future of crypto under Trump or Kamala.
Follow our guest on Twitter: @lex_node
Chapters
00:00 Start
00:42 Gabe's background
01:21 MetaLeX & Borgs
04:16 Problems with DAOs
09:40 Foundations vs corporations in DAOs
15:03 Well run DAO examples
18:06 The risks of tokens + equity
21:53 Regulating conflicts of interest
24:12 What don't lawyers understand?
27:21 Liquid staking tokens
30:39 Legalities of MEV
36:25 Changing rules
43:25 Governance attack vs code exploit
48:19 People are the DAO attack vector
54:41 Legal risks of single sequencers
55:20 WTF is a tokenized security?
59:50 Bearer asset laws
1:02:46 Crypto corp structures
1:07:51 World Liberty Financial
1:09:54 Trump vs Harris crypto regulation
1:14:37 Regulation = good? umm..
1:18:50 Stablecoins
1:21:50 Does USDC now control ETH roadmap?
👋The Gwart Show is proudly presented by Ellipsis Labs! Ellipsis Labs is building foundational products in DeFi. Their first product @PhoenixTrade is the leading orderbook DEX on Solana. The team is growing—visit ellipsislabs.xyz for engineering opportunities.
Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here.
Questions or want to sponsor? [email protected]
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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