On the Way with Max Botner: A Podcast of the Center for Bible Study

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Rev. Williams sits down with Dr. Botner to preview our upcoming course, Women and Power in the Church. She shares her journey to pastor ministry, and they discuss many of the major interpretive and practical questions swirling around the topic of women in ministry.

Come grow in your understanding or Scripture's beautiful and expansive vision for women in ministry. Not only will we explore a robust biblical case for women in pastoral ministry, but we will also unpack recent data (from Rev. Williams's D.Min. dissertation) about how Evangelical congregations are currently responding to the calling of women as lead pastors. In bringing together theory and praxis, exegesis and experience, we hope to provide resources that will help to edify the whole body of Christ.

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Rev. Marilyn Williams counts it as an Associate Professor in the School of Leadership at Jessup University. She has been in vocational ministry for the past 20+ years. Marilyn was ordained to Word & Sacrament in the Evangelical Covenant Church in 2014. She has been pastoring churches over the last 12 years, including Executive level denominational leadership. Marilyn is a highly relational leader, passionate teacher, and personal mentor & coach. She is committed to advancing the Kingdom of God through the development of transformative leaders in and outside of the church. Her dissertation research is focused on church vitality and the ongoing support of women in church leadership.

Dr. Botner sits down with Dr. John Hilber (Professor of Old Testament at McMaster Divinity School) to discuss the relationship of the Bible and science. Dr. Hilber is an expert in the area of ancient Near East cosmology and has been involved in scholarly conversations on the relationship between Genesis and science for decades. Topics covered: how ancient Jews and Christians interpreted Genesis 1-2 (includes discussions on Philo, Origen, Augustine, Gregory of Nyssa, and some of the early reformers); how modern science impacted biblical studies and theology, and the responses of leading American evangelicals (Old Princeton: Hodge and Warfield); different approaches to Genesis 1 (old-earth creationism, gap-theory, day-age theory, young earth creationism, theistic evolution / evolutionary creationism); inspiration, inerrancy, linguistic theory, relevance theory; literal vs. metaphorical reading; ancient Near Eastern cosmology and the context of Genesis 1; Enuma Elish; St. Augustine on divine accommodation; apologetics; Reasons to Believe; cosmic temple; differences between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2; Adam and Eve; the historical Adam; original sin; the fall; death and decay; evolutionary theory; faith and science Here are Dr. Hilber's Recommendations for further study:- Johnny V. Miller and John M. Soden. In the Beginning . . . We Misunderstood: Interpreting Genesis 1 in Its Original Context. Grand Rapids: Kregel, 2012.- J. Daryl Charles, ed. Reading Genesis 1–2: An Evangelical Conversation. Peabody: Hendrickson, 2013.- Kenneth Keathley, J. B. Stump, and Joe Aguirre, eds. Old Earth or Evolutionary Creationism: Discussing Origins with Reasons to Believe and Biologos. Downers Grove: IVP, 2017.- C. John Collins. Reading Genesis Well: Navigating History, Poetry, Science, and Truth in Genesis 1–11. Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2018.- John W. Hilber. Old Testament Cosmology and Divine Accommodation: A Relevance Theory Approach. Eugene: Cascade, 2020.- Denis O. Lamoureux, John H. Walton, C. John Collins, and William D. Barrick. Four Views on the Historical Adam. Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2013.- William Lane Craig. In Quest of the Historical Adam: A Biblical and Scientific Exploration. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 2021.

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Dr. Botner sits down with Dr. Hummel to discuss his new book, The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle over the End Times Shaped a Nation (Eerdmans, 2023). If you've ever wondered about the origins of rapture culture and various other (highly specific) end-times scenarios, then you've come to the right place. These ideas have a history, folks, and we're here to unpack it!

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Daniel G. Hummel is the Director for University Engagement at Upper House, a Christian study center serving the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He leads Upper House's programming for the university community and hosts the organization's podcast. Dan is the author of The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle Over the End Times Shaped a Nation (Eerdmans Press, 2023). He is also the author of Covenant Brothers: Evangelicals, Jews, and U.S.-Israeli Relations (University of Pennsylvania Press, 2019) and has written about religion, politics, and foreign policy for the Washington Post, Christianity Today, and Religion News Service. His academic research has been published in Religion & American Culture and Church History. 

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In this episode I address four questions: (1) What is the purpose of theological education? (2) What is the current state of seminary education (along with pros and cons)? (3) What is the relationship between the church and the seminary? And (4) What are we attempting to do with the Center for Bible Study.

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Dr. Botner shares some of the lessons he's learned and challenges he's faced along the way to becoming a biblical scholar. He also sets out the core convictions that drive his work for the Center for Bible Study.

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Dr. David Moffitt joins Dr. Botner to discuss his new book, Rethinking the Atonement: New Perspectives on Jesus's Death, Resurrection, and Ascension (Baker Academic, 2023). Moffitt's work on atonement (starting with the Epistle to the Hebrews) has fundamentally changed the way that many biblical scholars and theologians are thinking about atonement in the New Testament. If you think atonement is all about the death of Jesus, think again!

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Dr Moffitt is Reader in New Testament at the University of St. Andrews. His work is especially focused on the Epistle to the Hebrews and the strategies the text employs to interpret early Christian claims about Jesus’s person, death, resurrection, and ascension in high-priestly and sacrificial terms. His book on Hebrews (Atonement and the Logic of Resurrection in the Epistle to the Hebrews) attempts to show that the Christology and Soteriology developed by the author rests upon his correlation of the basic narrative of early Christian proclamation (i.e., Jesus’ life, death, resurrection, and ascension) with the ritual process of the Yom Kippur sacrifices, the end goal of which was the restoration and maintenance of fellowship between God and creation (i.e., atonement). His book Atonement and the Logic of Resurrection in the Epistle to the Hebrews was a recipient of a Manfred Lautenschläger Award for Theological Promise (2013).

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Dr. Brad Kelle joins Dr. Botner to discuss his book The Bible and Moral Injury: Reading Scripture Alongside War's Unseen Wounds (Abingdon, 2020). This is a fascinating conversation, which will be especially interesting to anyone who is involve in the spiritual care of other persons - pastors and chaplains take note!

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Rev. Dr. Brad E. Kelle is professor of Old Testament and Hebrew at Point Loma Nazarene University. His academic work focuses on the Old Testament prophets, warfare in ancient Israel, trauma studies, moral injury, and the history of ancient Israel and Judah. He is the author of several books including: Telling the Old Testament Story: God's Mission and God's People (Abingdon, 2017), Ezekiel: A Commentary in the Wesleyan Tradition (Beacon Hill, 2013), and Biblical History and Israel's Past: The Changing Study of the Bible and History (Eerdmans, 2011; co-authored with Megan Bishop Moore). He is currently writing the Hosea volume in the Old Testament Library series (Westminster John Knox). He is also an ordained elder in the Church of the Nazarene and spent eight years as an associate pastor, for youth and worship, at a Church of the Nazarene in the Atlanta area.

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Dr. Matthew Lynch joins Dr. Botner to discuss his new book, Flood and Fury: Old Testament Violence and the Shalom of God. The Bible's portrayal of divine violence is a perennial issue for Christians to navigate, and Dr. Lynch is an expert guide. He shows us how we can wrestle with complex theological problems, such as divine violence in the Old Testament, without resorting to easy solutions, and in a way that actually deepens our faith.

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Dr. Matthew Lynch is Associate Professor of Old Testament at Regent College (Vancouver, Canada). Prior to join the faculty at Regent, he served as Dean of Studies, Academic Dean, and Lecturer in Old Testament at Westminster Theological Centre (UK). He is the author of Flood and Fury: Engaging Old Testament Violence (IVP, 2023), First Isaiah and the Disappearance of the Gods (Eisenbrauns, 2021), Portraying Violence in the Hebrew Bible: A Literary and Cultural Study (Cambridge, 2020), and Monotheism and Institutions in the Book of Chronicles: Temple, Priesthood, and Kingship in Post-Exilic Perspective (Mohr Siebeck, 2014).

Dr. Lynch is also a founder and co-host of the OnScript podcast. https://open.spotify.com/show/01c08ZJTAjlMGOjfQb9OsV

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Dr. Susan Hylen sits down with Dr. Botner to discuss her new book, Finding Phoebe: What New Testament Women Were Really Like. Dr. Hylen's book is a game changer and should be the point of departure for future conversations about the various roles and offices of women in the New Testament.

==============================Dr. Susan E. Hylen is Almar H. Shatford Professor of New Testament at Candler School of Theology, Emory University. She has authored two books on the history of women in the New Testament and early church, which offer a new way of interpreting the diverse and often contradictory evidence about the participation of women. She is also the author of three books on the Gospel of John, as well as a number of other book chapters, essays and articles. Her current research explores the social construction of gender in the New Testament period.

Dr. Hylen also serves the Candler community and the academy, contributing to several committees, advisory and editorial boards, including a role as general editor of the Journal of Biblical Literature and as an editor of the New Testament Library. She is a frequent lecturer at church, conference and teaching events. She is a ruling elder in the Presbyterian Church (USA).

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