June 30, 2025

OpenAI Responds to Meta Offers, Meta's Secret List, Apple Scores Big With 'F1' | Will Brown, Will O'Brien, Kylie Robison, Joshua Meier, John Glasgow, Tom Lee

3 hours 11 minutes

(01:28:55) - Will Brown discusses Meta's recent aggressive recruitment of top AI talent, including former OpenAI researchers, to bolster its AI capabilities. He highlights Meta's strategic investments, such as the $14.3 billion stake in Scale AI, and the formation of the 'Superintelligence' team led by Alexandr Wang, aiming to advance artificial general intelligence (AGI). Brown also touches on the competitive landscape, noting Meta's substantial financial incentives to attract leading AI researchers and the broader implications for the AI industry.

(01:59:25) - Will O'Brien, co-founder of Ulysses Ecosystem Engineering, discusses his company's development of autonomous surface and underwater vehicles designed to perform critical ocean tasks, such as seagrass restoration, at a fraction of the traditional cost. He explains how these vehicles can autonomously plant seagrass seeds, significantly accelerating restoration efforts compared to manual methods. O'Brien also highlights the broader applications of their technology, including maritime security and infrastructure projects, emphasizing the need for affordable, scalable solutions to address various challenges in ocean operations.

(02:21:13) - Kylie Robison is a senior correspondent at WIRED, covering the business of artificial intelligence; she previously reported for The Verge, Fortune, and Business Insider. In the conversation, she discusses her recent reporting on OpenAI's decision not to release a research paper defining AGI, allegedly due to concerns over its Microsoft partnership, and the tension surrounding Meta's recruitment of OpenAI researchers, including a memo from OpenAI executive Mark Chen accusing Meta of "robbing our home."

(02:31:32) - Joshua Meier, a leader in AI-driven drug discovery, discusses Chai Discovery's new foundation model, Chi2, which significantly improves antibody sequence generation, achieving success rates of up to 20%, thereby reducing the need for extensive lab testing. He highlights the potential of Chi2 to expedite drug development and enable the creation of novel therapies, emphasizing the importance of agility in the rapidly evolving biotech landscape. Meier also envisions a future where AI models can design personalized medicines, though he acknowledges the challenges in predicting the pace of technological advancements.

(02:40:09) - John Glasgow, CEO and Founder of Campfire, discusses his journey from experiencing the limitations of legacy ERP systems firsthand to founding Campfire, an AI-native ERP platform designed to modernize finance and accounting processes. He highlights the company's recent $35 million Series A funding led by Accel, emphasizing plans to enhance product development and expand market reach. Glasgow also elaborates on Campfire's innovative use of AI to automate tasks, improve financial insights, and streamline operations for businesses of various sizes.

(02:51:37) - 02:55:35 Tom Lee, founder of Fundstrat and Chief Investment Officer of Fundstrat Capital, has been appointed Chairman of BitMine Immersion Technologies. In this role, he discusses BitMine's $250 million private placement aimed at adopting Ethereum (ETH) as its primary treasury reserve asset, highlighting the strategic importance of Ethereum's ecosystem, particularly in relation to the growth of stablecoins. Lee emphasizes that this move positions BitMine to leverage Ethereum's protocol-level activities, such as staking and decentralized finance mechanisms, to enhance the company's treasury operations.

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