A tender meditation on grief, healing and courage with multidisciplinary artist Phoebe Boswell, who creates portals that return us to our miraculous hearts.

If you'd like to see the art we discuss in this conversation, you can watch this episode on @busybeingblacktube.

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The song 'Busy Being Black' was created for the show and in collaboration with Lazarus Lynch and Joshua Pleeter.

The song 'Baptism' was created for the show and in collaboration with Dylan Halverson—and inspired by the oceanic overwhelm I felt engaging with Phoebe Boswell's art & the music she commissioned from bassist Gregg August: 'The promise of your redemption is within the depths you've been avoiding.'

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