A tender meditation on grief, healing and courage with multidisciplinary artist Phoebe Boswell, who creates portals that return us to our miraculous hearts.

You can surrender to Phoebe's paintings at Ben Hunter Gallery in London until 12 December.

For more on how this conversation and Phoebe's art have landed in my life, head to @busybeingblacktube.

The heart-rending composition in this episode is by bassist Gregg August, commissioned by Phoebe Boswell, and is included with Phoebe's permission.

If you enjoyed this conversation, you'll enjoy the ⁠⁠Black Marvellous⁠⁠: a growing collection of conversations that adventure into Black imaginative vigour—in art, attitude and life.

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