Steven Jack Butala:Steve and Jill here.Jill K DeWit:Jack and Jill here.Steven Jack Butala:Welcome to the Land Academy Show, entertaining land investment talk. I'm Steven Jack Butala.Jill K DeWit:And I'm Jill Dewit, broadcasting from the valley of the sun.Steven Jack Butala:Today Jill and I talk about how outsourcing seems to be easy, but hiring staff seems to be difficult in these current times.Jill K DeWit:We've had ongoing discussions... Well, right now in this part of career path where we're talking about creating systems and thinking about where you're going to take your company and you often need help. If you're doing this right, having a little bit of help is going to free you up to really focus on the tasks that you as an owner should be doing. So these are the discussions. So we've been talking about hiring and outsourcing, and also we're having as a whole separate side note, and we'll talk more about this, having our own issues, if you will, with hiring staff. And so we'll share what we're doing to solve that.Steven Jack Butala:Everybody wants to get wealthy and everybody doesn't want to work that much.Jill K DeWit:Correct.Steven Jack Butala:And that's why you're here. And it's very possible we have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of case studies, including ourselves, about having that happen and getting people to do what you want them to do when you want them to do it is a challenge. Before we get into it, let's take a question posted by one of our members on the landinvestors.com online community. It's free. Before we get into that though, I hope you know by now, we have a complete full blown commercial printing company created solely to help you get inexpensive direct mail offers in the hands of sellers fast. It's called offers2owners.com. Jill and I set this company up several years ago out of our own frustration because we couldn't get our mail out with the regular commercial printing companies. Fast forward to today, we send out eight or 900,000 mailers a month on behalf of members and non-members. Go to offers2owners.com.Jill K DeWit:Josiah wrote, "I was just texting a friend asking about purchasing landlock property for a flip. I thought I'd post some of the text message here. I can remember at least four deals I've done that were landlocked. In every case, I sold the property to a neighbor or sold the property extremely cheap to someone who didn't care about the lack of access. The numbers on each deal were like this: Deal one, buy for $46,000, property worth $300,000 plus with access, sold it to a neighbor for $108,000. Deal number two, buy for $6,000, property worth $60-80,000 with access. Sold it to a neighbor for $22,000. Deal number three, buy for $3000, property worth about $50,000 with access. Sold it to someone who didn't care about the access for $6,000."These are great. "And then number four, deal number four, buy for $1000. The property's river access only two acres of waterfront property on a beautiful river. If the property had access, it could have been worth $100,000 easy. Sold it to someone didn't care about the access again for $10,000. So I think I've done two or three," this is probably back and forth. Now we're back to another participant here. "I think I've done two or three other landlock deals, but I can't find them." Okay, there we go. "The other two or three we're similar numbers to the four examples above." That's good.Steven Jack Butala:So here's the point. And this string in Discord, it caught on like wildfire. Kind of went viral in our own little Discord environment. Landlocked property, or accessless property I like to call it, is not valueless. There's always some value. It just depends on how you manage it and how you handle it. So there's always ways, not always, there's a vast majority of circumstances. There's ways to get access to property. It's just all how much you want to deal with it. What's your business model? If your business model is buying crazy rock bottom p...