What happens when a pro hockey player walks away from the rink and reinvents himself in real estate?

In this episode, Jessey talks with Scott Morongell, who went from chasing pucks to chasing deals. After concussions cut his hockey career short, Scott dove headfirst into sales, multifamily syndications, and eventually found his stride in land investing.

You’ll hear how Scott pivoted through multiple business cycles, why he doubled down on land, and the creative strategies that keep him winning no matter where the market moves.

In this episode:

• From hockey injuries to building wealth through real estate

• Why land deals can outperform houses in profit and simplicity

• The marketing channel Scott trusts most in today’s market

• How to pivot, cut losses fast, and stay creative in business

Alex Toma didn’t just shift from commercial real estate to land investing. He transformed overlooked dirt into high-value deals using solar partnerships, zoning plays, and smart automation. In this episode, Jessey sits down with Alex to break down the systems, strategies, and mindset behind his rapid success.You’ll hear how Alex filters and evaluates land for solar, uses AI to streamline due diligence, and pulls off commercial plays that boost property value before resale.In this episode:- How Alex wholesales land to solar companies without buying it- Commercial zoning strategies that 10x property value- AI tools that help analyze deals and generate property visuals- The daily 50-text method that fuels high-quality leads

Running a land business from halfway across the world might sound impossible, but Efrat proves it’s not.In this episode, Jessey sits down with Efrat, an Israeli land investor and former architect who’s flipping land in the U.S. without ever setting foot there. From navigating a completely different bureaucracy to building a supportive land investing community in Israel, Efrat shares how she turned every obstacle into an advantage.You’ll hear how she launched her business with zero experience in U.S. real estate, what finally pushed her to hire a VA, and the unique ways she tailors her ads by truly understanding her buyers — all while juggling time zones and cultural gaps.In this episode:- How Efrat built a thriving U.S. land business from Israel- Why cultural awareness makes her a better marketer- What finally convinced her to hire help (and how it changed her business)- The power of learning by doing and mentoring others along the way

What if the best sales training didn’t come from a textbook — but from a Miami bar?

In this episode, Jessey chats with Jen Way, a real estate investor turned sales coach, who’s helped countless land investors close more deals by simply learning how to talk again. From her days behind the bar to flipping houses and buying land, Jen shares how conversation — not persuasion — is the foundation of great sales.

You’ll hear Jen’s journey from marine science grad to multi-faceted investor, and why she believes anyone can become good at sales with the right mindset and structure. No gimmicks. No pressure tactics. Just real rapport, real listening, and a whole lot of curiosity.

In this episode:

• How Jen went from wholesaling houses to coaching investors on sales

• Why “likability” isn’t about personality — and what to lean on instead

• Jen’s repeat-relate-resume method to unlock better conversations

• How to front-load objections before they kill your deal

Some investors go big to win big — but Hunter built a thriving land business by doing the opposite.

In this episode, Jessey sits down with Hunter to break down how he flips smaller, rural parcels at scale for outsized returns. You’ll hear how a college side hustle turned into a full-time business, why he avoids blind offers, and how he’s built passive income by offering seller financing to buyers who weren’t even looking.

With just two VAs and a tight system, Hunter is moving 100+ deals a year — using creative direct mail, a smooth checkout experience, and 27 marketing channels to keep his pipeline full.

In this episode:

• How flipping low-cost rural parcels led to 100+ deals a year

• Creative seller financing that converts casual browsers into buyers

• Direct mail strategies that stand out — without using blind offers

What if the land you buy could pay you monthly without flipping it, developing it, or lifting a finger?

In this episode, Matt Sands breaks down the world of mineral rights, a whole side of land investing most people overlook.

With over 26 years in oil and gas and now hosting The Mineral Rights Podcast, Matt shares how land investors can unlock passive income from what’s under the ground.

We’re talking royalties, pooling, deal structures, and how to find areas where mineral rights actually cash flow.

In this episode:

• What mineral rights are and how they really work
• How royalties are calculated and what those checks can look like
• Where the best states are for mineral investing
• What to watch out for before making your first mineral play
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What if your land offers weren’t just educated guesses—but backed by data, strategy, and AI?In this episode, Chris and Aaron share the pricing method behind their $500K+ land business. From using county-assessed values to anchor offers, to building consistency through neutral letter campaigns, their approach blends personal touch with data-driven systems.They also reveal how they use AI-powered tools to compare comps, assess markets, and avoid the spray-and-pray mailing method—resulting in smarter offers and higher ROI.In this episode:- Combine AI with comps for better offer accuracy- Target the right markets without guessing- Structure mail and follow-up for consistent deals- Build a lean land business without cold callingShownotes:[www.ailanddealz.com](https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.ailanddealz.com&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1745090899026499&usg=AOvVaw1KWDrpy-g-KQeCkjllPOFN)[[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])

Kay Walker didn’t scale with a massive team or high-volume cold calling. Instead, she built a lean, local operation that closes high-value land deals using direct mail, in-house systems, and trusted people she already knows.

In this episode, Kay shares how she keeps her operations tight but effective, relying on local relationships across NC, SC, and GA, and a close-knit team that understands her process.

From managing mail campaigns in-house to coordinating with realtors, soil testers, and contractors she’s worked with for years, Kay shows that smaller teams can move fast, stay personal, and win big.

IN THIS EPISODE:

• Why local relationships make the difference
• How a smaller team keeps things efficient and profitable
• Running direct mail campaigns in-house
• Lessons from scaling a busy short-term rental business
• What developers really want when buying land
• How to build a high-trust, low-chaos team

Ann and Mary Danielson run a land business from two sides of the world one in Denver, the other in the Philippines.

No team. No VAs. No mailing in nearly a year.

Yet their business hasn’t slowed down—it’s gotten more focused, more profitable, and more intentional.

In this episode, they share how clearly defined roles, trusted local partners, and a well-timed seasonal rhythm have helped them scale from simple flips to complex subdivides—without burning out or chasing every deal.

IN THIS EPISODE:

• How to stay consistent without hiring or outsourcing
• What async operations look like in a real land business
• Why focusing on fewer counties led to more deal flow
• How they prepped and bought $1M in land in just 3 weeks

Daniel Seavers was brought on to handle cold calls. But very quickly, it became clear he could do more. A lot more.

In this episode, Daniel shares how his role evolved into managing the full acquisitions process within a land investing business. From generating leads to making offers, following up, and closing deals, Daniel breaks down the systems and mindset that help him consistently land one deal a week.

He also talks about the advantages of keeping this work in-house, how his sales background shaped his approach, and what to look for when bringing someone into this kind of role.

IN THIS EPISODE:

• How a cold calling role became full-cycle acquisitions
• What the day-to-day looks like when one person owns the seller pipeline
• The tools and workflows that support consistent deal flow
• Why follow-up and live contract signing matter
• What to consider when hiring for this role internally