Join Todd Conklin in this episode of the Pre-Accident Investigation Podcast as he reflects on last week's enlightening discussion with Doug, the OSHA administrator, about the evolving landscape of occupational safety and health in the United States. Todd shares his insights on the positive feedback received and emphasizes the importance of being open to change and dialogue.

The episode delves into the concept that "good gets better and bad gets worse," exploring how organizations can improve or decline without intervention. Todd stresses the significance of understanding where an organization currently stands and the impact of creating the right conditions for growth and safety improvement.

Amidst personal anecdotes about autumn in New Mexico, chili roasting, and the global craziness of the season, Todd highlights the importance of appreciating the present and fostering a culture of psychological safety. He encourages listeners to think critically about their roles in helping organizations thrive and navigate the challenges of an uncertain world.