Live podiatry chats with Craig Payne and Ian Griffiths. In this episode we were joined with Dr Bronnie Lennox Thompson  and we discussed some of the beliefs that underpin when and why a person seeks care, and why a clinician should take the time to investigate this and also make sure the check their own assumptions. Bronnie also touched on why pain reduction/resolution is not always the primary goal, and discussed her research which looked into how some individuals live well with pain whilst others do not. This episode gestures toward the importance of history taking, motivational interviewing, pain science and human psychology (as as such has immediately become Ian's favourite episode!)