Welcome to this wonderful conversation on the 50th podcast episode of Sense-Making in a Changing World hosted the Permaculture Education Institute.

I am joined by two wonderful permaculture educators and designers from the AgroPermaLab in Poland - co-founder/, Joanna Bojczewska and urban gardener/educator/activist Klaudia Kryńska - both social anthropologists.

The way they are sharing permaculture embraces cultural and artistic dimensions and inspires people to engage, think and act differently. The way they are approaching permaculture education embraces traditional culture, contemporary culture, climate emergency and creativity.

AGRO-PERMA-LAB is a grassroots organisation, integrating political and popular education in Agroecology, Permaculture and Food Sovereignty. They create innovative training for community leaders, activists and educators; develop community research tools and publish audio-visual materials.

I became aware of the work of AgroPermaLab at the International Forum of Permaculture Educators in May and was immediately fascinated.  AgroPermaLab co-hosted this event with Biennale Warszawa.

In our podcast conversation Joanne and Klaudia also talk about their amazing digital project - The Supermarket Museum: Living Together within Limits.

I hope you enjoy this conversation just as much as I did.

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