For her first chat of 2023 with Jesse, Mary Holm talks about some positive financial issues. She has a list of spending that makes people happy, including paying off debt, paying for travel and events, as well as beautifying homes with plants and art.

For her first chat of 2023 with Jesse, Mary Holm talks about some positive financial issues.

She has a list of spending that makes people happy, including paying off debt, paying for travel and events, as well as beautifying homes with plants and art.

Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details