How Paul’s transformational journey from religious dominance to cruciform humility offers a radical blueprint for reimagining ministry leadership in today’s churches. This episode dives deep into the themes of power and weakness, drawing from Dr. Tim Gombis’s book, Power in Weakness: Paul's Transformed Vision for Ministry. Join Mike Erre, Tim Stafford, and Dr. Gombis for a wide-ranging and raw conversation about toxic leadership, authentic community, and how the New Testament calls us to something far more disruptive—and liberating—than a leadership pipeline or performance metrics could offer.

Key Takeaways: • Paul’s Transformation of Leadership – How Paul reoriented his entire vision of ministry from coercive power and prestige to self-giving service shaped by the cross. • Cruciform Ministry in Today’s Church – A practical vision for church structures and leadership that resist American cultural idols of success and image maintenance. • Confronting Pastoral Ego and Cynicism – Honest reflection on the temptations of cynicism, anger, and self-justification in response to abusive church systems. • Ministry as Cosmic Resistance – How Paul’s theology of the powers and principalities challenges leaders to embody a cross-shaped stance in spiritual and social conflict. • Redefining Authority and Success – Why mutuality, bi-vocational models, and practicing weakness can unleash the Spirit's resurrection power in the church.

Guest Highlights: Dr. Tim Gombis – New Testament scholar, podcaster (Faith Improvised), and author of Power in Weakness: Paul's Transformed Vision for Ministry. Dr. Gombis shares his journey into rethinking authority, his cosmic understanding of Paul’s theology, and practical ways to resist performance-driven models of church by aligning with Jesus’s cruciform example.

Resources Mentioned: • Power in Weakness by Tim Gombis – [Link] • Faith Improvised Podcast – [Link] • Philippians 2:6-11 – The Christ hymn that inspired the cruciform model • Michael Gorman’s writings on cruciformity – [Link] • “This Present Darkness” (cultural reference) + critique of modern spiritual warfare models

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As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram.

We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV.

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Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford

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