Today's episode is an action-packed double-header! First up, we've got post-punk heavy-hitters Matt Flegel (singer and bassist of Preoccupations) and Joe Casey (Protomartyr frontman and new entrant into the Talkhouse Podcast Three Timers Club). The recent tour mates discuss their new 7" split Telemetry At Howe Bridge, intra-band fighting, how sports nerds and music nerds can be the same kind of insufferable, and so much more!

Plus, we've got a short and sweet clip from a convo with Geoff Barrow (Portishead, Beak>) and Annika Henderson (aka Anika). They talk about how Annika found her band Exploded View just when she was about to quit the music industry forever, and how EV has benefitted from having members from three different countries. Check it out.

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Joe Casey and Matt Flegel were recorded in Kansas City by James Grau; Geoff Barrow and Anika recorded themselves. This episode was co-produced by Mark Yoshizumi at Hook and Fade Studios in Brooklyn.

The Talkhouse Podcast’s theme song was composed and performed by The Range.