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Putting the ENT into dENTistry – PDP272


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Sleep, Airway and Mouth Breathing: An ENT’s Guide for Dentists

Could a “normal” sleep study still be missing your patient’s airway problem?

Why do women and children with real symptoms keep scoring “mild”?

Should a mouth-breathing child see a myofunctional therapist — or an ENT first?

And which four questions screen a child for sleep problems in under a minute?

The roof of the mouth is the floor of the nose — so ENT and dentistry should be in constant dialogue. In practice, they rarely are. In this one, Dr David McIntosh — an Australian ear, nose and throat surgeon with a deep niche in sleep-disordered breathing — makes the case for why that has to change, and gives dentists practical ways to screen and refer. He is direct, analogy-rich and doesn’t mince words; expect a few positions that cut against the grain of how sleep apnoea is usually handled.

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Protrusive Dental Pearl: When the Numbers Mislead

Dentists love data — the AHI, the cut-offs (over 5 is mild, over 30 is severe). But take those numbers with a pinch of salt: the thresholds are arbitrary, and a single score tells you nothing about why a patient has the problem.

They don’t account for individual variability — especially in women and children, where a mild score can sit right alongside significant symptoms. Read the number with the anatomy and the phenotype — the clinical signs and the airway assessment — never instead of them.

What You’ll Take From This Episode

This conversation reframes sleep-disordered breathing from a number on a report into something you can localise and refer. 

  • A sleep study tells you IF, not WHY — sleep-disordered breathing is the whole spectrum; a normal study doesn’t mean normal breathing.
  • Phenotyping the airway — map the individual anatomical causes instead of trusting a single score.
  • Why women get missed — the gender bias built into standard adult screening tools, and what to ask instead.
  • The four-question filter for children — snore, mouth breathe, stop breathing, wake up tired: any ‘yes’ means refer.
  • Treat the cause before the function — why myofunctional therapy comes after the obstruction is cleared, not before, and how expansion and surgery are matched to the anatomy.
  • Highlights of This Episode

    • 00:00  Teaser
    • 01:00  Why ENT and Dentistry Should Be Talking
    • 02:51  Protrusive Dental Pearl: When Sleep Data Misleads You
    • 03:46  Meet the ENT Who Works With Dentists
    • 06:00  Sleep Physician, ENT or Dentist: Who Should Lead?
    • 07:26  Why Children and Adults Are Completely Different
    • 08:58  Sleep-Disordered Breathing Is Not the Same as Sleep Apnoea
    • 09:39  Why a Normal Sleep Study Doesn’t Mean Normal Breathing
    • 10:01  Same AHI, Different Cause: A Tale of Two Patients
    • 12:54  Why One Night’s Sleep Study Isn’t Enough
    • 13:44  Where the AHI Cut-Off Numbers Really Came From
    • 15:27  CPAP Explained: A Bridge, Not a Cure
    • 18:27  When Snoring Hides Something Serious
    • 19:10  What Phenotyping the Airway Actually Means
    • 20:27  Splint, CPAP, or Both?
    • 21:33  Why a CBCT Can Miss a Deviated Septum
    • 25:32  Is STOP-Bang Enough to Screen for Sleep Apnoea?
    • 26:06  Why the Epworth Sleepiness Scale Is a Blunt Tool
    • 26:50  Why STOP-Bang Is Biased Against Women
    • 31:17  Sleep Apnoea in Women: Mild on Paper, Severe in Life
    • 32:05  Midroll
    • 36:56  The Triad: Airway, TMD and Orthodontics
    • 37:12  The Three Most Common Causes of Night-Time Grinding
    • 39:41  The Four Questions That Screen a Child for Sleep Problems
    • 41:03  Tired vs Not Tired: The Sign That Changes Everything
    • 43:36  Should You Refer to Myofunctional Therapy Before an ENT?
    • 45:58  The Hidden Dangers of Forcing Nasal Breathing
    • 52:28  Maxillary Expansion vs Surgery: Which One Fixes It?
    • 54:51  How Dentists Can Assess Adenoids
    • 56:25  Save the Child First: The Drowning Analogy
    • 57:56  Where Dentistry and ENT Go From Here
    • 1:00:05  Outro – New-Look Premium Notes & CPD Outro
    • From the Guest

      Dr David McIntosh is an ear, nose and throat surgeon (MBBS, FRACS, PhD) with a special interest in sleep-disordered breathing and airway obstruction. A self-described compulsive educator, he is the author of several books on Amazon — including dENTal health, on the connection between ENT and dental disease, and Snored to Death, on the lesser-recognised causes of obstructive sleep apnoea in adults.

      References & Further Reading

      Sources discussed in this episode:

      • Chervin RD, Hedger K, Dillon JE, Pituch KJ. Pediatric sleep questionnaire (PSQ): validity and reliability of scales for sleep-disordered breathing, snoring, sleepiness, and behavioral problems. Sleep Medicine, 2000;1(1):21–32. The 22-item PSQ; a score above 0.33 suggests sleep-disordered breathing.
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        This episode meets GDC Outcomes C

        AGD Subject Code: 730 – Oral Medicine, Oral Diagnosis, Oral Pathology (Sleep medicine)

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        Aim & Learning Outcomes

        Aim: To help dental practitioners recognise sleep-disordered breathing across the whole airway, screen adults and children appropriately, and refer at the right time and to the right clinician.

        Learning Outcomes — by the end of this episode, dentists will be able to:

        • Differentiate sleep-disordered breathing from obstructive sleep apnoea, and explain why a normal sleep study does not exclude clinically significant breathing problems.
        • Apply a structured screening approach for adults and children, including recognising why standard adult tools under-detect sleep-disordered breathing in women and children.
        • Evaluate when to refer for specialist airway assessment, and articulate why addressing anatomical obstruction should precede functional (myofunctional) therapy.
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