This is the audio of the presentation I gave in St. George at the invitation of the Southern Utah Post-Mormon Support Group on January 9, 2022.

It goes not only into a paper I had published in BYU-Studies, but also into how that paper developed over the course of about two decades, and the two unpublished papers that led up to it!

As strange as this story is, it is a story I have long wanted to tell!  And here it is!  Make of it what you will!