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SlimeMoldTimeMold (SMTM) recently finished a 13-part series on psychology, “The Mind in the Wheel”, centering on feedback loops (“cybernetics”) as kind of a grand unified theory of the brain.
There are parts of their framework I like—in particular, I think there are innate drives (pain is bad, eating-when-hungry is good, etc.), and I think that the top priority of neuroscience & psychology should be to figure out exactly what they are and how they work.
Just kidding! Control theory is great. I’m all for it. …I just don’t think it's a grand unified theory of the brain. (source)But when we drill into details, I have lots of disagreements with SMTM's account.
I think there's a general failure mode of “grand unified theories of the brain”: the brain needn’t have any grand unified theory in the first place. I find that people with such theories are often doing the thing [...]
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(02:41) 0. PROLOGUE - EVERYBODY WANTS A ROCK
(03:17) 1. PART I - THERMOSTAT
(03:47) 1.1 Feedback is broader than the setpoint + comparator thing
(05:44) 1.2 Emotions do not correspond to error signals in homeostatic feedback loops
(07:01) 1.3 Happiness does not correspond to correcting error signals
(07:46) 1.4 Pleasure does not really correspond to correcting error signals either
(09:46) 1.5 My picture
(14:25) 2. PART II - MOTIVATION
(14:50) 2.1 Do governors vote for different voluntary actions?
(15:23) 2.2 Is there a gate that stops votes below a minimum threshold?
(16:54) 2.3 How do we think about executive function and self-control?
(18:20) 2.4 Is suffering good when it's under your control?
(19:32) 3. PART III - PERSONALITY AND INDIVIDUAL DIFFERENCES
(20:04) 4. PART IV - LEARNING
(23:25) 5. PART V - DEPRESSION AND OTHER DIAGNOSES
(25:40) 6. PART VI - CONFLICT AND OSCILLATION
(26:46) 7. PART VII - NO REALLY, SERIOUSLY, WHAT IS GOING ON?
(27:34) 71/2. INTERLUDE - I LOVE YOU FOR PSYCHOLOGICAL REASONS
(28:37) 8. PART VIII - ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE
(34:37) 8.1 Do humans do instrumental convergence stuff?
(36:37) 9. PART IX - ANIMAL WELFARE
(37:01) 10. PART X - DYNAMIC METHODS
(41:13) 11. PART XI - OTHER METHODS
(41:23) 12. PART XII - HELP WANTED
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By LessWrongSlimeMoldTimeMold (SMTM) recently finished a 13-part series on psychology, “The Mind in the Wheel”, centering on feedback loops (“cybernetics”) as kind of a grand unified theory of the brain.
There are parts of their framework I like—in particular, I think there are innate drives (pain is bad, eating-when-hungry is good, etc.), and I think that the top priority of neuroscience & psychology should be to figure out exactly what they are and how they work.
Just kidding! Control theory is great. I’m all for it. …I just don’t think it's a grand unified theory of the brain. (source)But when we drill into details, I have lots of disagreements with SMTM's account.
I think there's a general failure mode of “grand unified theories of the brain”: the brain needn’t have any grand unified theory in the first place. I find that people with such theories are often doing the thing [...]
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Outline:
(02:41) 0. PROLOGUE - EVERYBODY WANTS A ROCK
(03:17) 1. PART I - THERMOSTAT
(03:47) 1.1 Feedback is broader than the setpoint + comparator thing
(05:44) 1.2 Emotions do not correspond to error signals in homeostatic feedback loops
(07:01) 1.3 Happiness does not correspond to correcting error signals
(07:46) 1.4 Pleasure does not really correspond to correcting error signals either
(09:46) 1.5 My picture
(14:25) 2. PART II - MOTIVATION
(14:50) 2.1 Do governors vote for different voluntary actions?
(15:23) 2.2 Is there a gate that stops votes below a minimum threshold?
(16:54) 2.3 How do we think about executive function and self-control?
(18:20) 2.4 Is suffering good when it's under your control?
(19:32) 3. PART III - PERSONALITY AND INDIVIDUAL DIFFERENCES
(20:04) 4. PART IV - LEARNING
(23:25) 5. PART V - DEPRESSION AND OTHER DIAGNOSES
(25:40) 6. PART VI - CONFLICT AND OSCILLATION
(26:46) 7. PART VII - NO REALLY, SERIOUSLY, WHAT IS GOING ON?
(27:34) 71/2. INTERLUDE - I LOVE YOU FOR PSYCHOLOGICAL REASONS
(28:37) 8. PART VIII - ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE
(34:37) 8.1 Do humans do instrumental convergence stuff?
(36:37) 9. PART IX - ANIMAL WELFARE
(37:01) 10. PART X - DYNAMIC METHODS
(41:13) 11. PART XI - OTHER METHODS
(41:23) 12. PART XII - HELP WANTED
The original text contained 4 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.
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Source:
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