Univision anchor Jorge Ramos talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about how much of the Latino vote President Trump might get in 2020, why Bernie Sanders’ comments about Fidel Castro might cost him dearly in a general election, and why it’s important that journalists practice contrapoder — being on the other side of power. Ramos has publicly clashed with Trump, who published his phone number on Instagram after Ramos sent him a letter during the campaign; he calls for others in the media to stand up to Trump, and says that there are some scenarios where being neutral to all parties is an abrogation of duty. Plus: How should tech giants be regulated, and would that regulation hurt good political discourse?

This interview was recorded in front of a live audience at the Knight Media Forum in Miami, Florida.

Click here to read a full transcript of the conversation.

Featuring:

Jorge Ramos (@jorgeramosnews), journalist and anchor, Univision

Host:

Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

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