Mozilla Foundation executive director Mark Surman talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why the internet needs a "public option," how Mozilla's browser Firefox is positioning itself for the future, and the future of tech regulation. Surman also discusses how punk rock and small-town censorship shaped his worldview, and why being the number one browser isn't actually Firefox's main goal.

Featuring:

Mark Surman (@msurman), executive director, Mozilla Foundation

Host:

Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large

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