Respecting the Beer

Live from Lagerfest 2025, Gary, Joel, and Eric chat with Melissa and Josh from Cocoon Brewing (opened Feb 2023). They cover what sets Cocoon's taproom apart from others, the origins of the retro butterfly theming, and most importantly, what's on tap!

Visit Cocoon Brewing: https://cocoonbrewing.com/

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Live at Lager Fest 2025

01:37 Cocoon Brewing Origin Story

02:31 The Taproom Experience

09:15 On Tap at Lagerfest

10:05 Where to Find Cocoon in the Wild

10:49 What Brings People In

12:35 Mount Rushmore of Brews

14:30 "Let’s Hang”

15:28 What’s Next for Cocoon?

17:08 Support us on Patreon!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

The team discuss Lagerfest and what it takes to put the unique beer festival together. Usually october every year, Lager Fest is hosted by McFleshman's Brewery with craft brewers, food trucks, and live music. Learn abo ut their brewing events, community impact, and exciting plans for future festivals.

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Recapping Lagerfest 2025

01:11 McFleshman's Lagerfest

03:02 Organizing a Beer Fest

07:32 The Beer Parade!

12:54 Future Plans and Innovations

14:24 Unique Beers and Experiments

18:21 Distillation and Barrel Aging

18:48 Exclusive VIP Tasting

19:20 The Strength of Gertrude

20:52 Beer Festivals and Their Value

22:40 Marketing Strategies at Beer Fests

24:25 Lager Fest Financials

26:40 Future Events and Expansions

33:05 Support us on Patreon!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

Gary interviews Bobby (not Robert!) and Allison about the history, naming, ingredients, and brewing process of the Hildy Pils at McFleshman's. Cara is going nuts for this one!

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TIMELINE

00:00 The Hildy Pils

01:26 Origin Story

10:14 Water Profile

13:51 Malt and Hops Selection

17:46 Spunding and Fermentation Techniques

20:15 Yeast and Pressure

20:51 Sulfur Compounds

21:49 History of Pilsners

23:07 The Importance of Oak

23:58 The Skunky Smell

26:32 The Legacy of Augustiner Yeast

29:19 Support us on Patreon!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

After having interviewed one of the most prolific craft brewers, Ken Grossman, Bobby Fleshman and Joel Hermansen breakdown how they feel after interviewing their hero, sharing a few more personal stories about Sierra Nevada.

Gary Arndt and Producer Dave try Sierra Nevada "Green" for the first time.

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TIMELINE

00:00 Ken Grossman Postgame Show

00:51 Recapping the Ken Grossman Interview

03:18 The Impact of Ken Grossman on Beer Culture

05:36 Personal Connections

08:42 First Taste of Sierra Nevada Ever?

27:19 Diverse Beer Offerings at McFleshman's

28:00 Chasing the Challenge

28:32 Bobby's Beer Inspired by Sierra Nevada

32:34 Ken Grossman's Influence and Legacy

40:09 Post-Show Wrap-Up

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

Ken Grossman of Sierra Nevada Brewing Company share his ethos behind their operations, including renewable energy and sustainable brewing. Gary, Joel, and Bobby try to stop gushing just long enough to learn about Ken's legacy and the future of the company.

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TIMELINE

00:00 Ken Grossman Part 2!

00:12 Sierra Nevada Brewing Energy Efforts

06:24 Patagonia and Capitalism

09:15 Challenges in the Brewing Industry

10:42 Family Dynamics in Business

11:11 Early Challenges in Craft Brewing

22:52 Ken Grossman's Beer Preferences

31:32 Legacy and Future of Sierra Nevada

33:09 Thank You Ken!

35:06 Support us on Patreon!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

We fan girl for 79 minutes and 18 seconds. I mean, seriously, they've talked about him so much before, it's nice to actually hear from the man himself!

Join Gary Arndt, Joel, and Bobby as they interview Ken Grossman, founder of Sierra Nevada Brewing Company. From early brewing challenges to craft beer innovations and the story behind iconic beers like Celebration Ale and Torpedo, discover the journey of an American craft beer pioneer. Part 2 coming next week!

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TIMELINE

00:00 The Godfather of Craft Beer

05:09 Celebration Ale: A Deep Dive

14:49 Innovations and Brewing Challenges

34:50 Support us on Patreon!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

We're shifting weekly release to Thursdays! Stay tuned as this Thursday will be our biggest interview yet: Ken Grossman of Sierra Nevada Brewing!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

Gary, Bobby, and Allison review the brewery's progress in 2025, discussing successes, challenges, and opportunities for future growth. They delve into the evolving beer market, strategic choices for expansion, and the importance of community and quality in their craft.

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TIMELINE

00:00 Gary's Pet Peeve

00:33 Year-End Review of 2025

03:15 Community and Business Achievements

05:40 Future Plans

10:27 Collaborations and Community

13:31 Tourism Experience

15:25 Accidental Beer Creation...

20:51 Cider Experiment

22:17 Gary's Influence

22:50 Expansion Plans

26:22 Challenges in Distribution

31:14 A BEVERAGE Company

33:18 SWOT Analysis

42:18 Support the show on Patreon!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

Happy New Year, beer lovers! Join us for an uncut episode featuring the 'Pope of Foam,' Charlie Bamforth. With over 20 minutes of cut conversation, we dive deep into the art and science of brewing, the importance of foam, and how beer shapes civilization.

Patreon Exclusive Live Stream - Jan 5 @ 7 PM (CST): https://www.patreon.com/posts/146379474

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TIMELINE

00:00 Patreon Livestream - Jan 5

00:56 The Pope of Foam

01:47 Charlie's Journey into Brewing

04:53 The Science and Lifestyle of Beer

42:29 Pubs for Community Building

53:34 Beer and Civilization

01:00:18 Importance of Beer Foam

01:19:25 Support us on Patreon!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

What make's McFleshman's english porter special? Continuing our Taplist series, Gary grills Bobby and Allison about the origins and recipe for White Horse.

Patreon Exclusive Live Stream - Jan 5 @ 7 PM (CST): https://www.patreon.com/posts/146379474

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TIMELINE

00:00 Holday Break Announcement

00:44 Welcome!

02:54 The Tadcaster Trip

05:53 The Art of Beer Labels

09:07 Porter vs Stout

11:26 A Complex Recipe

14:02 The History of Porters

14:54 Open Fermentation and Yeast

15:46 Water Chemistry

16:42 ABVs

18:10 Second Chance Porter

20:51 White Horse Experiments

25:07 The Art of Cask Ales

26:07 Smoked Beers

27:28 We Got a Real Horse??

28:20 Support us on Patreon!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co