Respecting the Beer

Charlie Bamforth of Sierra Nevada Brewing and former professor at UC Davis talks to us about the importance of beer foam and who would be on his Mount Rushmore of Beer.

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TIMELINE

00:00 Welcoming Back Charlie Bamforth

01:03 The History of Beer and Brewing

07:35 The Importance of Foam in Beer

23:07 The Evolution of American Beer

24:43 Mount Rushmore of Craft Brewing

26:55 Conclusion and Farewell

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

The Pope of Foam graces us with an appearance! Charlie Bamforth, Bobby's mentor and current consultant for Sierra Nevada Brewing, joins us to talk about his career path and his view on low alcohol trends and beer being deemed "unhealthy."

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TIMELINE

00:00 Bow your heads for the Pope of Foam!

00:56 Charlie Bamforth's pilgrimage to beer

02:46 Pretending we know soccer scores

04:08 Is beer really that unhealthy?

12:55 The French Paradox: Why is wine "healthy"?

23:06 Moderation and Dry January thoughts

25:38 Low alcohol beers trends

31:00 Charlie will be back next week!

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Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

Some guy with a microphone just showed up from South Carolina and shoved a microphone in our face... Steven of Upstate Beer Boys Podcast, which covers the beer scene in that beautiful state, interviewed Bobby and other locals on a recent episode.

Listen to the full conversation here: On the Road Again.......... | Upstate Beer Boys Podcast

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Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

"We forgot to put pressure release valves on the vat..." Ben Fogle of Appleton Beer Factory regals us with stories of mistakes made and lessons learned when it came to opening the brewery.

Visit Appleton Beer Factory: https://www.appletonbeerfactory.com/

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TIMELINE

00:00 Welcoming back Ben Fogle

00:18 Learning from Brewing Disasters and Failures

01:40 The Leaking Fermentor Incident

07:28 Put Valves On Your Pressurized Vats

10:51 Contamination and Recalls

15:44 Creative Solutions to Brewing Problems

16:05 Juicy McJuice Face? Haz-a-tron?

21:31 Wrapping Up

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

The Fogels of the Appleton Beer Factory and the Fleshmans of McFelshman's share much more than just an alley between their breweries. Explore how competing breweries make collaboration work for them.

Visit Appleton Beer Factory: https://www.appletonbeerfactory.com/

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TIMELINE

00:00 Welcoming Back Ben Fogel of ABF

00:24 Neighborly Breweries

02:13 Sharing Resources

02:53 The Pipe Dream

06:58 The Genesis of 10 Paces Beer

07:45 Sour Beer and Bacterial Cultures

12:51 Hot Sauce Collaboration

16:37 Scaling Generation Challenges

17:06 The Lava Lamp: Cheese Curd Beer

23:04 Future Collaboration Plans?

27:13 Ben Will Be Back Next Week!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

Our neighbors from the Appleton Beer Factory finally join us! Gary, Bobby, and Allison chat with head brewer, alley sharer, and friend, Ben Fogle, about the origins of ABF's beer, taproom, kitchen, giant steel vats, and more.

Visit Appleton Beer Factory: https://www.appletonbeerfactory.com/

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TIMELINE

00:00 Martian Brewing Consultant?

00:43 Introducing Today's Guest: Ben Fogle

00:54 Ben's Brewing Journey Begins

01:15 Family Influence and Early Brewing Days

02:43 Engineering @ College

04:22 Building the Brewery: Challenges and Triumphs

10:20 Opening the Appleton Beer Factory

11:57 The Brewery's Unique Construction

13:55 Custom Building ALL Their Equipment

16:34 First Brewing Experiences

18:56 Lessons Learned Along the Way

21:09 Ben Hated Their Kitchen at First

25:03 And Then Came the Music

27:44 Ben Will Return!

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

The great debate of 2025! Gary Arndt and Bobby Fleshman try to keep things civil while Allison Fleshman and Joel Hermansen debate which is better: MSB or 547.

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TIMELINE

00:00 Introducing the Debaters

00:40 Gary Lays Down the Ground Rules

01:58 Allison's Case for MSB and Malt

04:08 Joel's Case for 547 and Hops

07:15 Mouthfeel?

18:37 The Bells

24:20 Which Beer Sells More?

28:05 The Winner is...

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

One beer company rises to save you from warm pints.

(This is a highlight reel from 2024. Enjoy!)

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TIMELINE

00:03 Welcome to the MCU

01:42 Evolution of Gary's Intros

02:54 What is Beer?

04:08 Early Morning Beer for Allison

04:43 Henry's Law Interjection

05:49 Smells Like Bananas

07:12 Beers Have a Color Fingerprint

09:00 Joel's is a Redundant Drinker

11:51 Schrodinger's Pale Ale

14:57 THE Lukr Faucet

17:20 The Bachelor Effect

19:34 Allison IS Gary

21:52 547 Day Proclamation

23:36 Respect the Boxed Wine!

25:58 10 Paces Origin Story

28:20 Lager's Require a Patient Wife

30:00 We Stumped Gary!!

31:24 Smokey and The Bandit and Coors and Butter

33:57 HOT STUFF KILLS BUGS

34:16 We Respect Beer Here

35:23 Pilgrams Drank Beer to Stay Hydrated

37:00 Nicola Twilley Teaches Us About Expiration Dates

38:40 Beer Garden Were The Original Refrigerator

40:51 STATIC CIVILIZATION

43:15 Fox Cities: A Brewery Destination

46:48 Breweries Are for Crazy People

48:18 McFleshman's Will Return

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

We're retapping an episode from 2024. This time it's Allison's favorite! The time Gary slept in, and Bobby and Allison took over the reins for a day. Chaos ensued.

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TIMELINE

00:00 Where's Gary?

00:43 Seasonal Changes and Oktoberfest

02:18 Apple Cider Production

07:15 Cherry Cider and Gluten-Free Options

18:35 Pumpkin Beer: Spice vs. Real Pumpkin

24:22 Harvesting Hops and Conclusion

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co

We're retapping Bobby's favorite episode from last year where Bobby explains the origins of 547 for the first time. New episodes drop in February!

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TIMELINE

00:00 Producer Note

00:20 Gary Introduces Bobby and Joel

00:38 The Story Behind 547

02:05 What Makes a West Coast IPA?

03:13 547 Inspiration and Techniques

05:29 The Evolution of 547

09:19 Blind Tastings and Popularity

11:15 THE 547 Experience

14:22 547 Day Celebration

19:48 Marketing and Branding

27:13 Conclusion and Invitation

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CREDITS

Hosts:

Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

Joel Hermansen

Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

Music by Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co