I've had a lot of conversations on this podcast about bringing manufacturing jobs back onto American soil.

But my guest today, John Gardner, goes a layer deeper – asking us to rethink the idea of free trade altogether.

John, the author of "How to Make America the Manufacturing Super Power of the World", passionately shares his thoughts about:

– The national security risk posed by an American supply chain that's so heavily reliant on offshore manufacturing

– How higher tariffs can protect our economy

– And why we need to reposition manufacturing in the minds of the next generation