In this episode of the RearViewMirror Podcast, Jeff and Steve look ahead to the holiday season—from how they cook their turkeys to navigating Christmas shopping for grown kids. They reflect on how gift-giving shifts as kids grow up, and how the pressure of the season can land differently on young adults and young families. Jeff and Steve encourage parents to give their adult children space, remembering that “quality time” is rarely possible without a quantity of time together. And that time together often needs to be more on the kids' timetable than the parents.

They talk honestly about changing expectations, traditions that fade, new ones that emerge, and the simple beauty of being present. Because making memories doesn’t happen in orchestrated “special moments”—it happens through consistent, ordinary moments with our eyes wide open. This episode is an invitation to right-size expectations, release pressure, and receive the holidays as they come.