A favorite topic on the Marginal Gains Podcast is rolling resistance, also known as CRR. It is one of the cornerstones of this show. While we have interviewed aerodynamic experts who have devoted hundreds of hours to CdA, we have found very few who have made CRR their passion. Tom Anhalt was an early guest but we can't think of another since. That changes with this episode.

John Karrasch makes a living from bike fittings. But John has made a name for himself through his tire testing. Using the Chung method, John has been putting tires to the test to see which ones live up to the hype. In just more than a year, he has amassed an impressive database covering just about every brand you can name. The beauty of John's work and results is he shares it with all of us at no cost.

In this interview, John shares his early beginnings with the Chung method, how he has refined his testing, and what some of the key learnings have been. The only thing between your bike and the surface you ride are your tires. John is one of a few who has been trying to quantify just how much power it takes to keep those tires rolling.