Dylan and Ryan discuss music life in the Southern Midwest, being a reluctant entrepreneur, Air Guitar by Dave Hickey, how much the UK loves literary songwriters, being embarrassed by your vision addiction, and cracking the case.

+ Ryan gives a letter of recommendation.

Music stuff we referenced:

Sophomore Lounge Records, Cropped Out Festival, State Champion, Fust, David Berman and Silver Jews, Greg Mendez, Elliot Smith, Townes Van Zandt.

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