The Wu-Tang Clan’s RZA and Interpol frontman Paul Banks (together Banks and Steelz) recently sat down for what may be the Talkhouse Podcast's most freewheeling conversation to date.

Their talk includes: music production hardware versus software, RZA’s enthusiasm for a recent Donald Trump speech, the President of the Philippines, Banks’ feelings about Suicide Squad, why Bill Clinton was at a Chance the Rapper set, Jessica Alba, confusing Bill Hader and Johnny Depp, and, oh yeah, their collaboration on their debut record, Anything But Words. Check it out and subscribe now on iTunes orStitcher to stay in the loop!

— Elia Einhorn, Talkhouse Podcast producer and engineer