With the National Cross Country Champs just round the corner, we had to get 1981 national winner, Julian Goater, on the podcast this week. Julian won the senior men's race by the largest ever winning margin, 1 minute and 55 seconds, and we spoke to him all about the race. Julian talked to us about his preparation going in, the race itself, and what he describes as 'the art of running faster'. Enjoy!