There’s more to people than what you see when they show up for work. 

Stories matter because we are in the age of radical authenticity and transparency.

Exciting? Yes! Challenging? Also yes.

Torrin Ellis, a powerhouse in recruitment, talent development, and operationalizing diversity and inclusion is here to break it all down! 

We’ll unpack Torrin’s latest report, Reducing Bias in HR Using AI, and explore building trust, vulnerability, and doing things differently to push humanity further and deeper into your respective organization.

Plus, we’ll tackle the scary stuff—like how to do the right thing even when it’s hard and why re-skilling is non-negotiable in the age of AI.

Don’t worry, we’ll also squeeze in some hot takes on the Super Bowl performance because, well, priorities.

Tune in, take notes, and let’s make work better, one uncomfortable conversation at a time.

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00:05:01 - How Hebba and Torin Met

00:10:26 - Breakdown of the Superbowl Performance

00:18:42 - Understanding Bias and Prejudice 

00:30:22 - What Inspired Torin’s Report about Reducing Bias in HR using AI

00:38:56 - The Pros and Cons of Capitalism

00:44:35 - Doing the Right Thing, Even When It’s Scary

00:51:09 - Torin’s ONE Takeaway You Should Have From This Episode

00:53:37 - Get in Touch With Torin

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