What if your exit plan never arrives?

Most founders treat their exit like a far-off dream; something they’ll figure out someday. But that vague timeline sabotages your team, your business, and your freedom. In this solo episode, Bill breaks down the real cost of waiting too long to plan your exit.

Topics explored in this episode:

(0:25) The Exit Date is Uncertain

*Time creeps up on you faster than you think. 

*One day, you’ll realize you want to retire and there’s no one who can take on the business.

(1:15) Client Case Study 

*When you untangle a founder from the business, the team suffers. 

*The founder and team have decades of ingrained habits that make a succession difficult. 

*It took this client 6 years to properly sell. 

(3:15) ‘Someday’ Timelines Hurt Everybody

*You can think about exit plans as early as the first year of business.

*This allows you to build a company culture around the ‘exit strategy’. 

*The team gets a chance to be excited about their individual ownership in the company. 

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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What Can You Learn About Scaling from the Very Early Days of Amazon?

In this episode, Bill sits down with John Rossman, former Amazon executive, author, and expert in leadership strategy, to uncover the secrets behind Amazon’s remarkable scalability. From launching the Amazon Marketplace in 2002 to writing The Amazon Way, John shares leadership lessons and operational principles that any business can adopt. This conversation is a masterclass in customer obsession, high standards, and building mechanisms that scale.

Topics explored in this episode:

(02:00) Playing Bigger is Actually Safer

*How John Rossman went from traditional consulting to shaping one of Amazon’s most successful platforms.

*The unique operating tempo and mindset inside Amazon.

*Why high standards are scalable, and low standards are not.

(11:20) Scaling Is Just a Series of Experiments

*You never want to have all your eggs in one basket. 

*If you’re trying to juice your business for -today’s profitability-, you’re setting yourself up for a big risk. 

*After being let down by Fedex during the holidays, Amazon knew they had to take their delivery network in-house. 

(19:00) Stay in the Problem-Solving Headspace a Little Longer

*Find small ways to test solutions to big customer problems. 

*Don’t go all-in or spend big $$ on customer problems without testing the available options. 

*Study history and past patterns from other companies to understand how problems get solved in a smart way.  

(31:15) Reinventing the Business Model: The Amazon Way

*John shares examples of Fortune 500 companies and how they failed to scale. 

*How Amazon out-thought competitors with better models, not bigger teams.

*The mindset shift leaders must make to scale.

(39:15) Leadership Isn’t a Trait. It’s a System.

*Don’t wait for a profit decline. Amazon doesn’t.

*Don’t leave your leadership up to chance.

*How to build culture by design, not by accident.

Thanks to John Rossman for being on the show!

Learn more about The Amazon Way: https://the-amazon-way.com/

Connect with John: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-rossman/

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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What if stepping away from your business is the most productive move you could make?

In this solo episode, Bill Gallagher explores the strategic importance of taking time away from the business in order to work on the business. Drawing from his own experiences and the breakthroughs of top leaders.

Topics explored in this episode:

(02:03) The Brain Needs a Break

*Breakthroughs happen after breaks.

*Stories from clients who saw massive clarity after they stopped grinding.

(03:42) Executing vs. Leading

*Constant doing keeps you reactive.

*When you always work in the business, you stop working on it.

(05:02) Trusting the Team

*Getting away tests your systems and your people.

*If things fall apart when you're gone, it's not a vacation problem.

(08:03) Breaks Create Capacity

*When you return, you’re sharper, more creative, and more useful.

*Distance gives you perspective and perspective gives you power.

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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Should You Build a Business from Scratch or Buy One that’s Already Working?

In this episode, Bill sits down with Matt Raad, founder of the eBusiness Institute and veteran business buyer, to explore the world of digital acquisition, business turnarounds, and intentional exits. From a humble start in zoology and manufacturing to flipping multi-million dollar websites, Matt’s journey highlights how you can build wealth through strategic business acquisitions.

Topics explored in this episode:

(07:00) Buying a Bankrupt Business

*Working with a shady accountant, buying a bankrupt business, and the accidental M&A lesson.

*Early inspiration from Zig Ziglar, Brian Tracy, and “What They Don’t Teach You at Harvard Business School.”

(10:30) Turnarounds that Worked and One That Didn’t

*Why Matt’s retail experiment failed.

*The power of simply raising prices and boosting sales.

*Preparing a business for exit with minor tweaks, not reinvention

(20:20) Discovering the Digital Goldmine

*Moving from bricks and mortar to passive digital income.

*Why Matt avoided eCommerce and leaned into affiliate websites.

*How his first $20k website changed everything.

(26:00) Built to Sell: Why Your Exit Strategy Starts Now

*Sell on the way up, not at the peak.

*Most founders wait too long and lose their best valuation.

(31:50) Equity, Earnouts, and Strategic Sales

*PE vs. strategic buyers: which gets you the better multiple?

*Stories of regret from entrepreneurs who sold equity too early.

*How smart PE groups structure incentives for better exits.

(41:55) Shared Ownership Isn’t Always a Bad Thing

*Why giving shares to store managers and salespeople drives better performance.

*A proven incentive structure from one of Matt’s mentors.

Thanks to Matt Raad for being on the show!

Learn more about Matt: https://www.ebusinessinstitute.com.au/

Listen to Matt’s podcast: https://www.digitalinvestors.com/podcast/

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

Everyone’s busy but are you TOO busy? 

In this solo episode, Bill digs into a leadership trap many fall into: staying chronically busy as a way to avoid real obligations. Extreme busyness often masks poor delegation, insecure leadership, and personal habits that chip away at both your business and your health. Through real stories from his executive coaching work, Bill unpacks what good busy actually looks like, and what needs to shift if you want to lead strategically instead of reactively.

Topics explored in this episode:

(03:12) Case Study: When Your Patterns Tank the Business

*A tech CEO worked on 3 hours of sleep for years

*Company collapsed due to his micromanagement and poor health

*Being needed by everyone = a failure of leadership, not a strength

(07:47) If You Don’t Look in the Mirror, You Can’t Grow

*Refusing to be coached is a huge red flag

*Great leaders change themselves before trying to change others

*The most important transformation is personal

(08:51) Let Go of Low-Tier Work

*Stop obsessing over small-dollar decisions

*Identify what only you can do—and give away the rest

*Shift your identity from operator to visionary

(10:57) Sprinting Is Fine, but Strategic Rest Is Key

*It’s okay to have intense moments

*But if every week is chaos, something’s broken

*You don’t scale by sacrificing yourself

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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What really matters at the end of your life, and how do you make sure you’re living meaningfully now?

In this episode, Bill sits down with Elliott Kallen, founder and CEO of Prosperity Financial Group and co-founder of A Brighter Day charity, to talk about building a meaningful legacy, the lessons that come from deep personal tragedy, and how to live with passion in both business and life. From preventing teen suicide to guiding families through financial and life planning, Elliott’s story is one of resilience, purpose, and intentional living.

Topics Explored in This Episode:

(03:05) Building a Business & Facing Tragedy

• Elliott’s entrepreneurial path and buying out his partner.
• The devastating loss of his youngest son three weeks later.

(08:00) Founding A Brighter Day Charity

• Creating resources for teens on stress and depression.
• Launching a nationwide crisis texting hotline.
• Why so many teens feel isolated despite being “more connected” than ever.

(16:00) The Loneliest Generation

• Comparing today’s teen mental health crisis to the Great Depression era.
• How social media fuels feelings of inadequacy.
• Elliott’s “six-sided box” metaphor for mental health.

(18:50) Stories of Loss Beyond Money and Success

• How pressure and expectations in wealthy communities create risk.
• Per capita suicide rates in affluent vs. low-income areas.
• Why financial security doesn’t guarantee emotional well-being.
• Personal stories from Bill and Elliott.

(23:45) Living With Passion

• The “love, like, give up” exercise Elliott uses with clients.
• Why most retirees spend 6+ hours/day watching TV.
• Creating a life that your next generation admires.

(39:50) How to Teach without Raising Their Defenses 

• Timing is important when you express your concern to your children. 
• How you frame the question to your loved one can make a night and day difference in how they receive it.
• Why “I’m worried” works better than “You should.”

Thanks to Rick Crossland for being on the show!

Prosperity Financial Group: https://prosperityfinancialgroup.com

Get the Book: Driven by Elliott Kallen: https://a.co/d/26gb8eN

A Brighter Day Charity: https://abrighterday.info

Connect with Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elliotkallen

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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What if being Superman is the very thing holding your business back?

In this solo pod, Bill challenges a very common leadership trap: always being the one to save the day. He shares stories from clients, and his own career, about the hidden costs of hero-style leadership, and lays out a better path forward: building a team that doesn’t need rescuing. This is about self-awareness, systems, and stepping back so others can step up.

Topics explored in this episode:

(01:38) Let Go to Grow Up

*Why real leaders coach, empower, and replace when necessary

(04:27) It Starts with the Mirror

*Your patterns are the problem

*Pull back, empower others, and design a business that runs without you

(07:37) Simple Framework, Hard Truths

*The important trio: self-awareness, strong team, good systems

*Become strategic again

(08:41) You Can’t Scale Without Evolving

*Why self-awareness must precede transformation

*Without change in the leader, everything else stays the same

*Execution habits matter…but only when you get out of the way

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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What if 90% of your team were high-performers, and your revenue tripled?

In this episode, Bill is joined by Rick Crossland to break down what it really takes to build a high-performance team. Rick shares his system for recruiting, coaching, and retaining A players who consistently outperform their peers and elevate your entire organization. From hiring secrets to accountability culture to a powerful new tool for talent evaluation, this conversation is packed with ways to truly cultivate an extraordinary team. 

Rick Crossland is a talent expert, the founder of A Player Advantage and the author of The A Player: The Definitive Playbook. He’s worked with brands like Johnson & Johnson, Ford, and Lifesavers, and now helps companies of all sizes build talent-dense organizations using proven systems and playbooks.  

Topics explored in this episode:

(10:05) How to Test for Coachability

• Why hypotheticals don’t work
• Using real-life stories and hobbies to find the truth for ‘true’ coachability 
• The red flags of performative coachability

(18:00) How to Move to an All A Player Team

• A normal business typically has only about 30% A Players. 
• How clear roles, accountability, and merit-based playbooks outperform “relational management”
• Stop tolerating C players—they demoralize your top talent

(27:00) Can You Replace People with AI? 

• Can you use AI to enhance your team and your people’s performance? 
• Why top grading alone isn’t enough; you need a system and great recruiters

(33:15) The A Player Talent Analyzer

• How to measure A player percentage accurately
• Monthly evaluation: effort, results, and coaching logs
• Why 50% of Bs can become As—but only if they want to

(44:30) Purpose Magnets and Coin-Operated Players

• Why end-user-focused purpose matters most
• How purpose-driven teams outperform paycheck-driven ones
• Aligning personal purpose with company mission

Thanks to Rick Crossland for being on the show!

Learn more at: https://aplayeradvantage.com/

Get the book: The A Player

Connect with Rick on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rickcrossland/

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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Why can’t you let go…even when you know you should?

In this episode, Bill unpacks the emotional reason behind why you struggle to delegate or release control. Through sharing a personal story and a powerful CEO coaching insight, he reveals how early fears sneak into your leadership style and why confronting them is the key to unlocking trust, innovation, and real team growth.

Topics explored in this episode:

(0:15) What’s Really Running the Show?

*It’s not strategy, it’s your fear.

(1:20) When the Bank Came for My House

*Bill shares the story of nearly losing his business and his home.

*How voicing the real fear changed everything.

(8:10) You’re Not the Problem: Your Fear Is

*Fear of not being enough gets projected onto your team.

*You’re surrounded by capable people, but fear blinds you.

(9:25) Want to Scale? Look in the Mirror

*Personal growth precedes team growth.

*Break old patterns. Create space for new fears AND new breakthroughs.

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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Why does it feel so hard to actually keep the money we earn?

In this episode, Bill is joined by bestselling author and entrepreneur Mike Michalowicz to explore the deeper patterns that shape our financial behavior. Mike shares insights from his upcoming book, The Money Habit, and offers an honest take on the emotional and psychological traps that sabotage even the most high-achieving business leaders. This conversation will change how you think about money. 

Mike Michalowicz is the author of Profit First, The Pumpkin Plan, and Clockwork. His work has helped thousands of entrepreneurs grow healthier businesses, and his latest book, The Money Habit, dives into the behavioral finance side of entrepreneurship. 

Topics explored in this episode:

(08:15) Why Smart People Still Struggle with Money

• Success doesn’t always equal financial security. 
• Cutting your spending isn’t really the solution.

(12:40) The Lies We Tell Ourselves

• We will always find new ways to spend our ‘new money’. 
• Mike explains Parkinson’s Law.

(20:30) Building Financial Habits That Stick

• Tiny habits are more powerful than massive overhauls.
• Mike shares how to “friction-proof” your financial systems.

(27:10) Different Life Stages Require Different Levels of Planning

• There are seasons to making money and spending money. 
• No one wants to miss out on fun moments with their family because they're busy in the ‘earning’ stage. 

(37:40) Relying on Will Power Does Not Work

• Mike wanted to exercise regularly; how did he make that happen? 
• With money, find your daily practical pattern and then tact on a money-related action item on top of it.

Thanks to Mike Michalowicz for being on the show!

Connect with Mike on LinkedIn: Linkedin.com/in/mikemichalowicz/

Learn more about his work: Mikemichalowicz.com/

Preorder The Money Habit here: Mikemichalowicz.com/the-money-habit/

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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